Ep. 218 - Donkey Milk, with Kris Graft

goonbag

Great ep. Loved the chaos energy and genuinely laughed out loud at the Rockstar rollercoaster joke.

Sorry but I’m here to stick up for Wordle. It’s fun. I have a group chat with some normie relatives dedicated to sharing how we did on each day’s puzzle. It’s bringing people together, Jerry!

exodus

I don’t think anyone meant to directly insult wordle (maybe tim did a little bit) - I just muted it because I don’t care to see it on my timeline there

JoJoestar

Yeah, I’m with Brandon on this one, while it’s entirely fine that people enjoy it, it’s something that was massively cluttering my twitter feed to the point of one of every three tweets being the weird symbols until I muted it.

It’s one of those things that are completely a non-issue until they reach the alright that’s too much status.

captain

Thanks Syzygy, for keeping us all safe ~~and for answering all my silly questions~~ and for the wisdom

goonbag

Oh, I can’t imagine how annoying wordle posts would be on twitter! I haven’t had an account there for coming up on 10 years now. My condolences to anyone who needs to maintain a presence there - mostly people who work in media/entertainment, right? Frankly I don’t know why anyone would torture themselves with that particular hellscape otherwise. I say this at the risk of sounding like the “I don’t even own a TV!” poser, but I really think ‘social media’ sites have inherent qualities that are bound to cause non-psychopaths genuine harm.

tl;dr wordle is cool if you don’t have a feed for it to clog up

whatsarobot

1) Have I been goblinized? How do I know if I am goblinized, and if so, to what extent?

2)@goonbag is correct. It is cool to play Wordle and not play Twitter.

goonbag

whatsarobot The sad truth is that everyone in the modern world has become goblinized, with the possible exception of Byung-Chul Han

whatsarobot

goonbag Incredible answer. Where would a goblin like me be best advised to begin reading Mr. Han’s works?

goonbag

whatsarobot I am no expert but I highly recommend starting where I did: an excellent 1 hour documentary covering some of his key ideas in his own words, with English subs. (If you’re interested in language at all, it’s also a cool opportunity to hear German spoken with a Korean accent!)

whatsarobot

goonbag Please start a goonbag newsletter so I can subscribe.

goonbag

whatsarobot You flatter me. I do think there’s potential for an interesting essay looking at Death Stranding through the lens of Han’s ‘psychopolitics’ - ideas about neoliberalism’s relationship with technology; freedom as a tool of control, our enthusiastic participation in our own surveillance.. What does it mean when the devices and networks we rely on for community and connection are the same ones that enable our oppression? (spoilered for reference to some DS themes). Slam that like button and don’t forget to subsc

whatsarobot

goonbag Genuinely fascinating topics. Most of what you put behind the spoiler wall reminded me of this terrifying (in its implications) A**le Watch ad which my friend shared with me today.

goonbag

whatsarobot Those tech companies sure have a way of revealing cosmically horrifying new products/features as though the average perosn should feel nothing but a sense of blissful wonder 😬

Now I’m thinking about Elon Musk proudly showing off brain implants he stuck in a few pigs, pointing at the screen showing their brain waves like a proud dad at an ultrasound, apparently oblivious to the distinct outline of tentacles.

antillese

whatsarobot For context, I’ve spent my whole career in high tech and have pretty substantial privacy concerns about what the interconnectedness of all things means to us as individuals. I also biked over 2000 miles last year. I think automated emergency location reporting is an extremely valuable safety feature for when I go riding by myself.

esper

kept it simple this time, otherwise we’d end up with another 10+ minute super cut of every milk mention

yeso

antillese yes as a thru-hiker I’d like normal consumer watch/phone to have this feature: but the problem with the apple watch is the battery life which makes it useless in the actual wilderness. Would be nice not to deal with expensive/weird satellite devices and subscriptions

goonbag

yeso that’s the other problem besides battery, isn’t it - connectivity? i assume the watch can only do this in areas with regular phone coverage.

anyway, the revulsion some of us are feeling towards the ad isn’t related to the practical application, it’s the 2001: a space odyssey-esque presentation. times when my life depends on it is exactly when i DON’T want my disembodied robot assistant to have a faux-personality. what if the emergency call operator has an accent siri doesn’t understand, and instead of confirming your location for rescue uses the last hour of battery blasting your workout playlist on apple music?

antillese

goonbag My Garmin GPS headunit (aka Bike Computer) requires my phone. I tell it up to 5 contacts and when it detects a potential fall, it informs you “I am about to send a message to your contacts with your current location. Cancel this within 30 seconds if you don’t want to do this”. I’ve had it false positive once and I thought it was pretty great. Had plenty of time to come to a safe stop and tell my GPS that I’m OK and not to text my wife and brother.

Apple Watches are sold with and without cell radios. If you have a non-cellular watch, you’d need your phone. It’s my understanding it works in a similar fashion with text messages. I don’t have a watch like this so I can’t speak much more about the features that are marketed as location-sensitive safety features.

yeso

goonbag yeah cell service and battery life are dealbreakers with apple and the outdoors. The only way to have reliable communication in the wilderness is with a satellite communicator, but those are pricey both at purchase and through a subscription service so I’d like something that isn’t an added expense. But yes that particular commercial was offputting

whatsarobot

Good discussion about the pros and cons of the feature shown in the ad, but to be very clear about the reason I personally find this feature creepy: I don’t like the idea of my watch having the ability to automatically call the police whenever it decides I’m engaging in an activity or venturing into territory that it deems inappropriate. I realize that’s not the functionality it’s designed with, but this ad creates the possibility space for that kind of scenario.

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