"I'm just here to kill Chaos" - Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin: Page 3

"I'm just here to kill Chaos" - Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin

captain

Syzygy I’ve been on Hard the whole way through

Syzygy On base PS4, on Hard, it’s just absurd

So aside from Master Tonberry missions the base PS4 performance hasn’t been a hindrance? Sounds good

Syzygy

It’s by no means great and often ugly visually, but it’s playable and stays mostly in 30-45 FPS; doesn’t feel any worse than Nioh or Bloodborne, and the defensive options available require relatively less snap reflexes than the former.

connrrr

Syzygy wow, I totally get that now that you bring it up.

Probably disjointed navel-gazing about the ending:

I’m listening to My Way again. The game fully justified its use by the time the WoL walk in. Beautifully done.

I’m a big sap and I love when games make my cry, but I didn’t expect it from SOP going in. FF1 is light on plot, but even the surprise “A crystal shines within every heart!” in the epilogue scroll is so maddeningly touching. Even Nioh managed to squeeze some tears out (spoilers for Nioh). Things like that manage to creep up on me because Nioh and SOP both progress very purposefully from mission to mission like that kind of action game, the dialogue and cutscenes can feel like utilitarian filler in the moment but still do the job of developing characters the player can bond with—all without turning into an interactive movie, how about that.

Astos really loved Jack!! The fist bumps during the Atma Origin fight made me guffaw, but then Jack soul bursts him and it messed me up. Someone somewhere else mentioned that, since at the end of FF1 when the time loop is severed it states that Garland never becomes Chaos as a result and forgets everything that’s happened, that maybe this game’s ending isn’t actually bittersweet? Maybe Jack and Astos get their happy ending after all?? Gosh, what a good prequel.

connrrr

They’re called Fool’s Missives because they’re sent you from a fool in love!!

Syzygy

Saw credits roll, played a couple post-game missions: that’s a big step up in grindiness, and seems strictly meant for multiplayer in a way that wasn’t true of the story. I’m curious about that, actually: being “Final Fantasy”, I wonder about how good the minmax grind is here. I would like to try the multiplayer in general, but my PS+ ran out last month and I’m disinclined to resubscribe with Sony’s recent behavior— but I know the online population of this game is only going to decline, if there’s any left at all now . . .

I’ve alluded to it before on these forums, but Duodecim 012 and the Ultimanias had actually already established in the deep lore that FF1 / Cornelia is canonically the nexus of the Final Fantasy multiverse. It’s now set that both Garland / Chaos and the Warrior of Light arrive at the start of FF1 as a continuation of journeys in space-time. I note also that the final level of SoP is one time, discretely referred to as “Station 19” . . . Final Fantasy XIX, I’ll be waiting with bated breath to close this loop.

connrrr

Syzygy the game also takes place over the nineteenth cycle, I think. Considering now whether I should give those Dissidia games a look.

LeFish

I finished this tonight and had a blast. I missed a lot of the nuance though because I was being talked at during cutscenes.

Syzygy

Played a couple post-game missions: that’s a big step up in grindiness, and seems strictly meant for multiplayer in a way that wasn’t true of the story.

Nevermind, I found the mission you’re supposed to play to onboard to Chaos! difficulty and that is quite a fun loot pinata. Cyclic Warrior also is very fun, and such a natural extension of the MP system that it’s a shame to not have had it while playing through story missions . . .

Syzygy

Even though this is a rental and I may never revisit this game on PS4 I find that I want to leave my save data off with the entire party in 5-star, level 130+ gear with relevant job affinities. Help.

connrrr

I haven’t been playing it much since finishing it, but I have been thinking about the game all week. I think I should at least make a beeline for chaosbringer in that job’s skill tree.

Syzygy now might be your chance to take revenge on those tonberries.

Syzygy

As it happens this weekend is free play on PSN and I found out about it in time to get some multiplayer matches in after all.

Strictly, the host is Jack and others appear as the NPC party members, based on job. What happens if you join multi having unlocked Breaker (Sophia) early by grinding?
For a fast action game the netcode is . . . OK? I was able to no-miss Chaos Advent a couple times, but I know that boss pretty well now. Definitely some sketchy teleporting and t-pose sliding around at times. Including an instance of a Tonberry wiping a party of three humans because of teleporting OHKOs. My arch enemy . . .
There is seemingly no filter on lower level players joining higher level multiplayer lobbies, and in fact the default search parameters kept pushing me into them (I’m sure it also doesn’t help that the player population is probably very low and therefore skewed to the high end). It’s 1999 and I’m joining Japanese players’ Very Hard PSO lobbies to steal their weapons and run away, again.

connrrr

Syzygy the only game I ever play online is Splatoon but I want to dive into this at some point, if the Xbox playerbase is big enough to not timeout every attempt (also means I won’t be playing with JP players though, damn).

MDS-02

Syzygy
This weekend me and my friend played more, are now up to whatever mission recommends ₈₆ gear. Having played exclusively two player through this game, and then doing the one fight they force you into 1P in Cornelia and realizing that there are NO revives in this game during single player flipped my lid a bit. The economy of Phoenix downs and potions used as revives had felt pretty alright throughout the game and if a single death would put you back to a checkpoint, well, it really is a different game.

I was recalling this thread while doing the ‘kill three master tonberries’ mission, and at the least we could somewhat tag-team or sandwich them, and they still were tough (action difficulty). It must have been intense/excruciating doing that single player.

The other thing I was noting as we played is that I could tell there was an extent to which having multiple players breaks the flow that any individual is able to set up. I found myself accidentally comboing an enemy out of final big hits that my friend had been winding up for. The legibility of exactly what each person was doing (or my rusty reading skills only playing this game in long sessions about once a month with my friend) made that feel somewhat unavoidable.

Once we clear the game I think I’ll definitely do some solo play to get a sense of how it plays without a second source of madness on screen. Definitely feels like it would be a substantially different game.

Cheddahz

i got this in the mail yesterday. just completed the dark elf mission and i’m having a blast with this lol

MDS-02

I’m sure anyone who cares already knows but there is dlc announced. The first of many? By the time they’re all released and a reduced price collection is put out, the rest of the world will be better prepared to engage with this game.

exodus

I’m just here to kill Chaos

captain

exodus

(choosing not to link the video, i mean it is practically a snuff film)

Syzygy

English version of the trailer also but it can’t be embedded.

connrrr

Syzygy that Matoya’s Cave theme at the end!!

chazumaru

Syzygy Wait ¥3300 is the price of the expansion alone!? That’s pretty much the going price of the main game (new) right now. Is that such a huge expansion to the base game?

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