Ep. 240 - Get On The Centaur, with The Night Sky Prince

Herb

Gaagaagiins This is the coolest RPG lady:

She’s so cool in fact, that she can pull off a bowl haircut by way of wearing an aviator cap.

Gaagaagiins

JRPGs need more cool ladies who are also elderly, also. Old ladies are the most underutilized, in fiction

RubySunrise

Gaagaagiins This is so true. I have many TTRPG characters that are old ladies to try and combat this. It’s also because to grow old is a legitimate dream/fantasy of mine.

xhekros

My first JRPG experience was FFVIII, and it was the game that made me buy a PlayStation. I didn’t regret it, there is some real heavy trippy weird shit at some parts that is still enjoyable, and I feel the game gets shat on things it didn’t deserve. It’s a shame the link system is soooo easy to exploit (the easiest FF at that, sadly).

esper Yeah, that’s true. Praise Rose from Legend of Dragoon for that.
I am more into the honourable knight trope (specially if they’re women -like Freya from FFIX)

Gaagaagiins Please everyone share your favourite RPG cool ladies
Apart from the already mentioned Freya:

Beatrix, from FFIX

Rose, Legend of Dragoon

Koudelka, Koudelka

The detective girl from Persona 4

I also think Tifa has the mold of a really cool character, but maybe I would enjoy her character better if she were older. Which ties to…

Gaagaagiins JRPGs need more cool ladies who are also elderly, also. Old ladies are the most underutilized, in fiction
Please. They are also incredibly amusing and intriguing to write, too.

thebryanjzx90

Just based on utility rather than style or character, I don’t like party members who can only contribute when using finite resources like MP or FP or items. You drag along your black mage or healer because they will obliterate the boss and are forced to watch them bonk random enemies along the way for pitiable damage, wasting everyone’s time. Or you do a bit of math in your head and get your hopes up that maybe this bonk will actually be enough to finish off that monster after the fighter takes a swing! But of course no it was not and you feel foolish for daring to believe.

So a party member I will keep in my party at all times is someone who can fight, and also has a command other than fight that will at least sometimes be the right choice, and can be used without restrictions.

beets

Gaagaagiins
Julienne from I Am Setsuna (sorry for the massive image). She fits the cool lady and the powerful late game character archetypes.

Gaagaagiins

beets Cool lance lady……… damn she’s strong

hellomrkearns

esper Tim: Buy a nice pair of shoes

For anyone who didn’t catch it the first time:
https://aldenmadison.com/

thebryanjzx90

Yeah you can’t have ‘the’ in your [twitter handle] it’s bad for your brand

Oh noo my brand

rejj

Gaagaagiins Please everyone share your favourite RPG cool ladies

The cast of FF X-2.

My first RPG was also AD&D: The Treasure of Tarmin! Tim is right in that it is not a great game, but I still played a whole bunch of it on our Intellivision anyway! I’ll defend it - in fact I think I even did over in the relevant “bad games you like” thread.

exodus

Gaagaagiins yeah, it’s real weird! Their youth is more obvious in the Japanese dub but she’s still clearly the older more experienced character despite being 15. It’s weird!!

穴

Gaagaagiins how accurate “teens saving the world” is for JRPGs…

I was soooo disappointed when I stopped being a teenager and i hadn’t saved a single world!!!

Gaagaagiins

穴 I was soooo disappointed when I stopped being a teenager and i hadn’t saved a single world!!!

Exactly what someone would say if they HAVE saved the world but prefer the quiet life among the townsfolk once more

sdate

nominating RIP & TEAR “from” Doom for “Play it again, Sam.” meme status of that one is what inspired Brutal Doom and (I’m assuming here, based on the glory kill system and the fact that they quote it in the intro) chunks of Doom 2016, and it’s basically synonymous with the games now for a lot of people, but it’s actually a quote from a comic book that came out after Quake.

thebryanjzx90

Hey what’s the character in the YouTube thumbnail from? Is that ff16?

Gaagaagiins

thebryanjzx90 Yes, that is Clive

esper

thebryanjzx90 god bless square for putting key art with a transparent background on their website

PhantomPhotom

Thief class/skills in Final Fantasy tactics are real fun because you can just steal important characters’ equipment right off their bodies. Got some guy whos being a problem, take their unique sword and they are just running around punching the rest of the fight.

It also helps you can see all the items every enemy has on them.

PhantomPhotom

Also yes please bootcast

NoJoTo

so, i’ve been wondering for a while (and sorry if i’ve already asked somewhere else!), but what is the best final fantasy game to start with (preferably available on switch or easily emulated…)? or, should i just jump into ys viii first (because i heard people say it was good and it was on sale so i bought it)?

yeso

NoJoTo what is the best final fantasy game to start with

you have to decide if you want pre or post FFVII. If pre, I’d say VI, and if post I’d say VII. I don’t personally think they’re the “best” but they’re very good and immediately engaging

Gaagaagiins

NoJoTo what is the best final fantasy game to start with

Dragon Quest III

saddleblasters

NoJoTo I generally agree with what yeso said, with the caveat that if you find the premise of one of the other games particularly enticing, you should go with that instead. Other than maybe FF2, none of them are bad – but they all have very different worlds (particularly from the playstation era onwards), some perhaps more appealing to you than others. You might have heard mechanical critiques of certain entries in the series, but I think you can mostly ignore those if you’re not already a massive RPG fanatic. Though yeah, if after reading the intros to the wikipedia articles and glancing at screenshots for each game you aren’t drawn to any particular entry, I’d just go with what The-Forum-Poster-Formerly-Known-As-Yeso said and play 6 or 7.

PhantomPhotom

NoJoTo

I think the best answer for a 2D game to start on is FF6 in the snes rom form. The pixel remaster is pretty ok if you want it in wide screen but be sure you play it on PC if you care about fonts (so you can replace them).
Why ff6 tho? Because it has the most stuff going on and is the most likely to please. Its a good intro because if you fall in love with the game’s core the other Final Fantasy games will prolly be more hook-y despite aspects you dont enjoy as much. Where as if you bounce off before trying 6 I feel like you missed out on the big one.

FF5 and FF6 (snes versions) allow 2 player co-op in battle which I think is just neat.

I don’t thing 3D final fantasy ever got better than FF7. But ff7 is so weird and “important” this isnt even a final fantasy rec. The materia system is really fun and all the minigames are a blast. This feel like the last time a finalfantasy was this rich with ideas and content. (until 14 which is an MMO) The later entries feel sort of paired down to be more tight around central themes. and probably less expensive to make while being self serious and pretty. I’m in the camp that thinks the remake is bad AND incomprehensible if you didnt play the original first.

These are all stand along games and getting in deep with nearly any of them will give you the trope and lore back ground you need to “get” final fantasy.

NoJoTo

yeso
PhantomPhotom
ok, so, i actually tried final fantasy 6 for a bit, and i got into it, but then my entire party died and i couldn’t figure out how to load my save… like, i walked through a couple blue circle-orb-things, and i even googled how to load a save and read some forum post where a person answered their own question, but….
basically, should i try again and make a savestate at every blue circle-orb-thing or is saving/loading a thing you unlock later or am i clueless and loading a save is very obvious?

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