The Metal Gear Megathread

kory

captain To be fair, I would buy the heck out of a game featuring a closeup shot of this 3D model on the cover

captain

christoffing It looks so much better!!! C’mon, American marketing people!

kory I—
I spoke too soon

fridgeboy

captain
Sure does!

I can’t find my copy of MGS3 and I’m panicking just a little.

whatsarobot

rainbowbattlekid I have been thinking about this for the past 24 hours, and came back to this thread just to watch it again.

“I’ll have a pot of lapsang, please.”

rainbowbattlekid

whatsarobot yeah it’s hypnotic. i like his little almost-smirk after “…and some sausages”

captain

We talk a lot about the more extreme Bluepoint overhauls around here, but I’m curious to know, does anyone have strong feelings (positive or negative) about the Bluepoint remasters of 2, 3, and PW? Personally have not played any in their original format though judging by Youtube footage it seems at least 3 lost a lot of bloom and contrast in the transfer, and PW of course had a lot done to it. Maybe there’s a difference in how the 2 and 3 ports feel, too. Is Peace Walker so tuned to handheld play that it feels wrong on a TV, etc.

Official_Danimalz

captain There are some very minor things which kind of remind me I’m not playing the original with MGS3HD – consider the mask during the HALO sequence with upres’d text now reading “HIDEO KOJIMA” – but they’re very very minor. Peacewalker feels different for sure but I much prefer the remake, although the aim assist is a bit nuts when you have a full TV to line up your shot with.

It’s funny though, the real distinct Metal Gear remake is the most easily forgotten: Snake Eater 3D for the 3DS. It has its own lower fidelity yet more stylized look, added crouch-walk, and more camo/masks! The camera controls are unbearable on the old 3ds without the Circle Pad Pro attachment though, so it’s a mixed bag. Overall though, it feels so much like Peacewalker, and I would probably suggest it to anyone with the right gear.

billy

captain They’re my preferred versions of all three. Performance is vastly improved, particularly in MGS3 and PW. You lose analog face buttons and a few visual touches, but the overall experience is much better. Once you’ve played PW with a real controller it’s hard to go back to PSP.

Moon

Syzygy

I know I’ve said this on here before but I’m like 100% certain MGSV’s language virus was heavily influenced by the themes of Project Itoh’s Genocidal Organ.

Moon

I wish there were more games like the AC!D series. Anybody have recommendations for games like that? Slay The Spire isnt close enough.

Gaagaagiins

Moon The only thing I can think of that is remotely like a game that is a card game but not a “card game” card game is the obvious answers like the Megaman Battle Network series or Baten Kaitos

Syzygy

Moon
Duelyst, sort of, but I guess it shut down last year.

Phantasy Star Online Episode III C.A.R.D. Revolution
Yu-Gi-Oh! Dungeon Dice Monsters

I’m not familiar with Genocidal Organ, but it could well be. Before release I expected the language stuff was going to have to do with kotodama / brown note kind of themes. I still think this might have been the intention earlier and Venom would have been so under-spoken to avoid risk.

rejj

Moon I wish there were more games like the AC!D series. Anybody have recommendations for games like that? Slay The Spire isnt close enough.

There is an Early Access game on steam called Fights In Tight Spaces that may fit the bill, depending on how you interpret “games like that”.
(disclaimer, I’ve only watched some video on it and have not played it myself)

Moon

Syzygy

I made the connection between MGS5 and Genocidal Organ myself and then later had someone on these forums point out to me that Hideo and Itoh actually knew each other in life, and that Itoh wrote the Japanese novelization of MGS4. I very much recommend checking out the film adaptation sometime, as it made me feel like I understood MGS5 in a new way. I like this review of the film, and the way it connects it to

the “motif of harmful sensation” … Something about the idea of merely seeing an image, or hearing a word, and suffering irreversible harm

found in other horror works like “The Ring”.

rainbowbattlekid

Moon been reading a bunch of Lovecraft recently and this is uh, definitely there too!

captain

Official_Danimalz Yeah, the crouch walk in MGS3DS is like first-person aiming in Twin Snakes, I imagine it changes the game hugely (only played the demo; the 3DS I have is the non-New XL, so no hope of playing it with good camera controls on there).

christoffing a revelation in terms of playability

True, the full-3D view does change how you play. I played the HD version first and had the opposite experience—I didn’t know it allowed you to switch back to the original camera (don’t know how, I usually press all the buttons in games), so I missed some of the cooler camera angles they put in there.

christoffing

As someone who played MGS3 with the original Snake Eater camera, the HD version was a revelation in terms of playability. It doesn’t mess up the balance like the first person mode in Twin Snakes, it’s just straight up the way the game was meant to be played. I also think it’s the only way to play MGS3 in 60 FPS, but don’t quote me on that.

Syzygy

I was looking at the current MGSV sale on PSN and for the first time noticed Ocelot’s face in the key art:

kory

Syzygy I’m not OK with the fact that this downplays his majestic protuberant nose in MGSV

Official_Danimalz

captain Worry not, with 3ds emulation and a proper controller one day we’ll all be able to play the super-not-definitive version of the game we’ve all played way too many times already! Also worth noting that the full-3D camera actually pops up in Subsistence I believe, and the HD version just cleans up that version a bit (while removing the Ape Escape stuff).

captain

Official_Danimalz while removing the Ape Escape stuff

Much to my displeasure. I’ve tried to keep my eye out in second-hand places for a copy of Subsistence but no one ever sells it! And quite right about the camera innovation being there and not in the HD version.

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