What does a dreamcast game look like?

MazoPanku

exodus It definitely was, but something about the updated models in DX just made everything seem even more exaggerated.

I was going to run through both of these games and do the fieldwork myself but fortunately, there are people on Youtube who just do this kind of thing for fun.

Maybe the best answer is that they’re both ridiculous in different ways?

The characters in DX have a lot of extra little details like fingers and nicer models that are more in line with Sonic Adventure 2’s look, but the underlying game engine is still Sonic Adventure The First’s, weird cutscenes and all.

Neko Sonic Adventure’s lighting on Dreamcast is still better than the vanilla steam version.

Speaking of research, all this. Thanks for pulling all this information out, Neko, obsessive Sonic fans kick ass.

exodus

MazoPanku looks like the masses agree with you that the Dreamcast version looks a bit better.

I had to read this sentence three times to parse it correctly!

Neko

Sorry, i forgot to link the source article :

https://dcmods.unreliable.network/owncloud/data/PiKeyAr/files/PLTool/Documentation/

Neko

also, the beta lighting for Sonic Adventure was wild. I suspect the game was already dropping too many frames so they had to cut it but you can still see this look come out in Speed Highway 😀

Fishie

gyozaleaf I owned a VF3 arcade machine, a beta one at that where a whiffed Aoi ground grab came with no penalty.
And yes the DC port was rushed, the first pics shown to press of VF3tb for Dreamcast were actually the cancelled Saturn version.

I think I am the only person outside of Sega of Japan to have actually seen VF3 running on Saturn.

exodus

should’ve taken some pictures!!

I guess theoretically these are screens from the saturn version, but I am SKEPTICAL
http://thesaturnjunkyard.blogspot.com/2007/12/virtua-fighter-3-saturn-screenshots.html

Neko

exodus

dunno about vf3 saturn but the shenmue footage makes me think they could have pulled it off somehow

Fishie

exodus Back in the day I have seen and been told a lot of stuff I could not take pics of/make public.

Here they had just told me about the Shen Mue roadmap while wraping up work on SM2 and doing work on SM3.

exodus

they’d have had to bust out that 4mb ram cart for sure.

also, it’s getting off topic but it’s interesting to me to think about a scenario in which shenmue had come out on the saturn. First of all, that type of game, would it have even been popular? But second of all, those graphics! On saturn! people would’ve lost their biz and it might have changed the conversation a bit I think.

Fishie

exodus They did for VF3 not so for Shen Mue

Q: Can you tell us a little bit more about the unreleased Saturn version? How long had it been worked on, and did it use the experimental Saturn expansion cartridge or the 4meg RAM card?
A: Nearly two years of work was put in the Saturn version. It didn’t use a booster cartridge nor did it use the 4meg RAM card, so yes, the game was programmed for, and the footage seen as an extra on Shenmue II is from the code running on a stock Saturn.

Jtwo

Whoa, I had no idea there was a DC version of the OG spiderman ps1 game.. I’ve gotta try that.

Fishie

Dreamcast was the BEST place for PS1 games, between BLEEM and so called DC remakes of PS1 games that were just BLEEMED PS1 games the DC did what XBox series X and S is doing in a few days.

adamazing

I always thought Dead Rising looked like what a Dreamcast 2 game would have looked like.

treefroggy

Dreamcast games look like really clear and chunkus polygons begging to be displayed in 480p on an arcade crt monitor, hi-end consumer or broadcast crt, or pc monitor, but often we settled for 480i. They all seem like they were meant to display in 480p like their close brothers and sister arcade versions!

Unbeknownst2U

Fishie For me the best accessory for the Dreamcast I ever dropped money on was the VGA converter and playing PSO and everything else I could via my PC CRT. The system’s ability to present itself in that way really made everything pop and look super crisp and sharp.

LeFish

My first glimpse of a Dreamcast game was a promotional screen of Pen Pen Trilcelon - I can actually imagine it now, showing a few of the characters from a front-side view, and I prominently remember seeing the shark character. Not this screenshot but…

In a sense, that round, bright and glossy style is what I associate with Dreamcast games as a whole. I think the gloss is particularly important to emphasise as a common style between games as that’s what I see even on things like box art.

Syzygy

Rounded but still polygonal explosions expanding outward while rotating

treefroggy

I think if you toned down some of Billy Hatcher’s graphics, like a demake, it would resemble a Dreamcast game 100%!
Imagine the same effect as seeing the N64 prototype of Kirby’s Air Ride.

matt

For me what made a DC game was an emphasis on smooth frame rates, arcade like time limits, bright colours and radical fonts. It just gave the impression that it was an eye catching experience, just like walking into an arcade. The DC games shout “PLAY ME!”

docky

gyozaleaf Napple Tale was the first non-Sega game I thought of with a Dreamcast aesthetic.

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