Ep. 183 - We Need To Talk About The Noid, with Jim Stormdancer: Page 2

Ep. 183 - We Need To Talk About The Noid, with Jim Stormdancer

antillese

kylebrizzown
You must be juuuuuuust a bit younger than me because my list is more along the lines of Dark Forces, Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight, Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast: Dark Forces 3, TIE Fighter, X-Wing, Rebel Assault*. I bought Rogue Squadon for my new gamecube and I just bounced off of it. It must have been overshadowed by Metroid Prime.

*Actually, this game is bad. I don’t think I made it past the first level more than once or twice.

tombo

i know tim always recommends Babe 2: Pig In The City as a joke but i watched it with my little sister and it contains some pretty distressing scenes including a dog hanging from his own leash for about five minutes. also it’s clearly a parody/fantasy version of NY and the portrayal of the different animals is weirdly racial-ised… it’s just not great overall.

Babe 1 on the other hand is better in every respect, its humor and message are conveyed way more tastefully; it’s just a 100% earnest film about empathizing with animals and reckoning with the cruelty in the world. i love it.

yeso

I don’t want to start another big movie argument tombo, but babe 2 is the superior entry in the babe duology

tombo

yeso
it’s been a while since i watched it, so i can’t say for sure, but this rotten tomatoes review sums it up pretty well:

i just would rather… not… have any of that. it’s so extremely cheap and trashy. it’s annoying how almost none of these terrible things actually happen, they are just implied to have happened for about five minutes and then are suddenly reversed (the crippled dog is fine now!) and then the movie quickly moves on to the next atrocity. also it kinda makes the character of Babe and the supposed message seem absurd because of how exaggerated everything else is.

edit: now that i think about it, there’s also the farmer falling and being completely crippled, the woman being covered in slime, puke jokes, fat/pig jokes… it’s just like all the greatest hits of ‘“comedy”" that should stay in the 90s’ in one movie (no transphobia, thankfully (looking at you, Ace Ventura)).

whatsarobot

yeso as a pretty major fan of Babe 1, i now feel remiss at having never even once seen Babe 2: a p in the c

tapevulture

yeso how could you think this

i think dominos is good now. everyone can probably think of three local spots they’d rather order from but i used to get together with me bud to game regularly before coronavirus and we’d always get dominos. fits that kind of mood

Syzygy

I haven’t listened to this but I’m worried to see Q9 and no KOTOR2 in the mentions. That’s an all-time top 10 RPG that happens to be Star Wars and elevates the source material, by its existence retroactively redeeming a lot of EU crap.

yeso

right, I wonder why I didn’t think of kotor 2. Almost doesn’t register as a star wars game in my memory it’s that distinct (a good thing)

GigaSlime

I feel like maybe the idea Dominoes is better in Japan might just come from the fact that there aren’t many options for pizza over there? For me and my friends, our go-to for big ol’ American trash boy pizza was Costco

saddleblasters

tombo “The best parents are the ones that traumatize you, because you just remember them so well (in therapy) later in life.”

yeso

tombo never imagined I’d be defending babe 2: pig in the city on a message board but…you’re presenting a heavily distorted account of what’s in the film, as does the review you cite. For example: the dog hanging by his chain is like a 30 seconds, not “5 minutes” and he is promptly rescued by babe the pig, then delivers a speech about animal rights and dignity, then they all sing a song together.

I would agree that the film is too intense for a G rating, but “cheap” “trashy” and “atrocity” are just ridiculous terms to throw at babe 2: pig in the city….

the portrayal of the different animals is weirdly racial-ised…

this is just 1000% wrong. The mean dog does seem a little Italian though

exodus

I will admit that both “dominos is good in japan” and “babe 2 is good” are both tim opinions that I’ve never felt compelled to investigate. I have come back with “I don’t believe it” with dominoes being good in japan, and “maybe some day” re: watching babe 2.

in general mass produced food is of lower quality, that’s how they get it made so fast and at such a high volume, so while it’s possible dominos is better in japan than it is than the US, I don’t think I would ever make the assumption it’s better than any other pizza made by hand with some measure of care!?

kylebrizzown

exodus Frank is also on record on the Video Game History Hour as a Babe 2 defender.

Moon

exodus

there’s some stuff you just don’t want to research (I don’t remember whether I presented these opinions as any stronger than “someone else’s opinions” but if I did, oops)

gouis

Breath of the Wild is the Paddington 2 of video games. It’s a new-ish sequel that is extremely well regarded by a wide fanbase, especially by those of a younger age.

exodus

gouis hmm, but it needs to have dethroned something.

goonbag

exodus Ocarina 😎

hellomrkearns

Somber de Amigo

coughsoda

menu localizations are probably the most interesting thing about fast food chains. i remember being intrigued by the various soups and taro options on offer at mcdonald’s in hong kong. probably the only decent big mac i’ve ever had was in denmark.

excellent episode btw, probably my recent favorite

tombo

coughsoda
the words “menu localization” reminded me of this fast food chain i saw in Yangon, Myanmar (a lot of the signage was like that xD)

穴

coughsoda As a person who lives in a border town, I also find fast food/chain store localization wildly interesting. One of my favorite things to compare is Mexican and American Costco they feel like alternate reality versions of each other. I grew up going around once a week to both Mexican and American Costco with my mom, and when I was 7, my family went to vancouver on vacation, and I was blown away by the fact that there was a third version of Costco.

My mom goes to Mexican Costco and American Costco once a week to do groeries, they are just different enough that she can justify going to both. Well she used to used go to both but the border has been closed to non U.S citizens since covid started.

coughsoda

tombo funnily enough, that’s a korean chain and that same stream of gibberish is directly across the street from me right now. i guess they didn’t localize that part

marlfuchs2

@exodus What is this LCD racing game? I want to check it out, since LCD racing games were/are a fascination of mine.

They’re also on the internet archive and playable on the web. a preservation effort that still amazes me https://archive.org/details/handheldhistory

exodus

marlfuchs2 here’s the article I wrote about it a million years ago: https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/120795/Opinion_Constrained_Design_And_The_Merit_Of_Simplicity.php

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