Business Ethics, Nonprofits and Charities, Fraud and Mutual Aid

Social needs in LA are met by the generosity of rich california liberals because they’re nicer than in Illinois?

I don’t want to put too fine a point on it without comparing statistics.

Maybe this is an adjacent thread to Wage Slog where we can talk about our volunteer work.

The mutual aide I was running this morning was shut down by the cops sent by the karenest Karen to ever Karen, a council member who shall not be named. She showed up in person after and we had a very cringe interaction. I’m still shook.

@“treefroggy”#p145085 that sucks ass dude

While I have not worked for a non-profit, I have been on the receiving end of a non-profit organisation (as in I was part of the group they were raising money for). This is probably different from some of the ones mentioned in this discussion as it was more research focused for people with my disease instead of providing aid. The Non-profit organisation has raised a lot for research and I can definitely feel and see the impact it has had on research and improving my quality of life. However, there was one issue that started arising in recent years and that is that it started ruining more community focused spaces. Originally it was also focused on providing organised events for people to meet and share experience, as the leadership changed and the person at the head of the organisation made it their full-time job, every single event became profit focused.

My dad and I used to participate in events and even some money raising with marathon events, but they kept pushing more and more leading us both to distance ourselves from it. Another friend of mine with the same disease also quit aiding with organisation as it became too money focused and she was constantly forced to try and increase donations. This constant push for increase in income in the end made more people quit and ended up making me less eager to participate in community events as it feels like you have to bait for donations or they will use you for publicity. I know they mean well but it is exactly like what you mentioned, they started treating it like a for-profit company.

Dang it now I gotta write a dang ol article for my local newspaper because I witnessed queen Karen being a bully lol

@“treefroggy”#p145127 what was the grievance or perhaps more accurately pretext?

@“yeso”#p145134

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@“treefroggy”#p145085

> The mutual aide I was running this morning was shut down by the cops sent by the karenest Karen to ever Karen, a council member who shall not be named. She showed up in person after and we had a very cringe interaction. I’m still shook.

she was rummaging through our free food bin. out of the corner of my eye I saw her so I said "take as much as you can carry!" which I say to everyone. then she looked up and said "thank you" with her fake little smile and after a moment I realized it was the councilwoman who is compassionate only to rich people's interests who we stand up to regularly in city hall, who controls the cops, etc. etc.
she rummaged through what we had on offer and said to the rich men she was with "see? popscicles? seriously?" she was showing off to them. she was waving her arms and complaining, karening, nimby'ing, as she walked off, checking over her shoulder to make sure no one was following and listening.

btw the "popsicles" were just organic fruit juice marketed as a frozen treat.

now you got me goin.. maybe I'll be more motivated to write my article if I use the Insert Credit Text Editor to do it.

https://youtu.be/xfn_QLGpU8I?si=Oc0-J9hjmfAV412F
this is ken, we use his setup on the boardwalk everey day to serve food. he's getting displaced.

is it like a permit is needed to distribute food or something? Hard to imagine what she could be complaining about. Out here, the Salvation Army has had to change its soup truck routes based on which aldermen don’t like seeing poor people in public view in their wards, is that her deal? What a creep

@“yeso”#p145144 most people know she is the villain who gentrifies our city and a tool for the aristocracy. she doesn‘t rely on logic or ethics. she’s just here to do whatever she can in opposition, like if fox news was condensed into a single karen councilwoman. She‘s like Cell from DBZ only uglier.

The boardwalk is a free public space for artists. On the grounds of freedom of speech, our rights have been protected. The precedent was set when Harry Parry won a lawsuit vs the brick and mortar shops trying to shut down the free artists spaces. Our city was founded as an artist colony by Abbot Kinney in the early 20th century. Big business vs the people on the boardwalk public space is something that has been going on for 50 years. Reminder that we are in the middle of a culture war here.

There is a rule that at sundown, you must close up shop and pack up. So the police actually did the minimal enforcement when gigakaren wanted the maximum enforcement. The minimum enforcement is to tell ken he has to pack it up at sundown like everyone else. Ken has been sleeping in this spot for over a year, and the cops like him because he has saved lives and kept the space clean, albeit somewhat territorially, which I’m not into.

Keep asking questions you're making my article easier to write buddy đŸ˜č

I’m wondering how she’s following her own policy on this one (from her website, the section addressing housing and homelessness)

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(2) Adopt a Policy of Compassionate Enforcement

It’s been proven that a focused and sustained effort to move people into housing works, but only with a well-coordinated approach. Law enforcement, outreach/housing providers, government leaders, and public sector resources must be brought together to facilitate the goal of immediately ending encampments and their associated impacts. We know what needs to be done and Traci will work to see that effective protocols are applied all across CD11.

@“yeso”#p145150 taking your reply at face value: yeah this is what gentrifiers look like. she violently displaces people who are perfectly fine where they are under the guise of providing housing. but there‘s tons of caviats, and it’s the worse housing options available. She covers her ass neatly for all public-facing stuff. the people who are providing viable housing options aren't also the ones displacing people lol.

it's like oil companies that talk the talk about saving the world and our green future.

I've posted about her before when talking about RV camping zones being deleted, going to city hall, etc.

She's a fascist, dawg.
No one really falls for her facade, you're on her team or you're not.

but enough about *her*

not to get too spicy here but

having dealt with some folks kinda like this (she sounds way worse), they should not know peace

you want to use your privilege and undeserving power to bring harm to the least of a community? cool cool, let's run some noise campaigns around your house, let's name you online & shine a light on your deeds. if folks want to dedicate themselves to being shitty, i believe in raising the cost - attach any consequences you can to make their targets seem less soft/worth it

takes a diversity of tactics but a group i was with did this to their local councilwoman karen, did some digging & found the heinous racist stuff she said online. when confronted, of course she doubled down when she thought it wasn't recorded! the happy ending was her friends on said council circling the wagons couldn't insulate her from public outcry, so she was outsted, last i saw she was carrying water for trump/desantis/whatever other monster she could find

@“treefroggy”#p145153 The usual real estate developer brain space of: we worry about making money; all the effects of rising rents, SFH property taxes, and general CoL are externalities and someone else’s responsibility

@“yeso”#p145193 Venice now has the highest property value in all of Los Angeles. Higher than bel aire and Beverly Hills. So yes it is attracting the worst kind of people in droves who just want to make number go up. They are represented by her.

the bastards want us dead

Back on topic: in this context having your grass roots charity taken down by politicians who want to gentrify out all poor people is a sign you’re doing something right!

Browsing this thread with interest as a suburb-dweller who’s completely ignorant about this scene but curious about novel and effectual means of helping people marginalized by systemic poverty. This might be a super naive question but what is the ostensible reason for police interrupting mutual aid activities? Zoning shit?

(For context, I’ve done a bit of work with inner city communities by way of public schools and community centers, so I’ve seen some of the limitations of the “official” toolset in addressing deep systemic wounds and the plague of self-interested careerists in the nonprofit sector)

@“2501”#p145275 in my experience, it boils down to

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@“treefroggy”#p145244 politicians who want to gentrify out all poor people

poor/working class urban neighborhoods/enclaves reach a kind of equilibrium over time in which the housing stock, commercial business, social services, etc etc sustain the population, so when these areas become targets of opportunities for "development," property owners get offered un-turndownable amounts of money to sell, renters either swallow the rent increases or move out, and in the case of the most vulnerable of these renters (usually people with disabilities, elderly people) wind up on the street or in conflict with these new landlords/developers. Basically, the real estate developer class in tandem with people who purchased newly-expensive single family homes or leased newly-expensive apartments, want what they paid for: a neighborhood with marketable "character", but no visible poor people, and certainly no poor people in tension with the changes they brought to this neighborhood. From this point you can take your pick of which city ordinances (unauthorized food distribution, being in a public park after curfew, etc) can now be invoked to clear them out

@“2501”#p145275 this is not answering your question but the older i get the more i realize that the entry-level leftist observation of cops existing solely to protect capital and private property is actually about as deep as it gets