Cha Cha Cha! Tea Talk (No Tisane Allowed)

Let’s spill the tea on the world’s favorite beverage.

I’ll start things off with a primer of some tea basics. This is by no means exhaustive, and I hope leaves (ha!) plenty of room for discussion.

Note: most of my tea knowledge comes from the “loose leaf” premium realm of imported teas, so much of what I present here is filtered through that lens. I do not have anything against teabags or flavored teas, they’re just not my “cup of tea”. Sorry for that joke.

1. What is tea?

(I’ll keep this section brief, as much of it is common knowledge)

Some regions call it tea or tí. Others call it cha or chai. But what is it?

Tea generally refers to one partocular species of plant, indigenous to China, camellia sinensis, colloquially known as the tea plant, tea shrub, tea bush, or tea tree. Less commonly, another species of the camellia genus, camellia taliensis, or the “wild tea bush”, is also used.

The leaves (and sometimes stems) of these plants can brewed in water to create the infusion we call tea.

The beverage produced by brewing tea leaves is generally served hot (but sometimes iced) and is often considered refreshing or revitalizing (Tea naturally contains the stimulant compound, caffeine).

Subsection: What is NOT tea?

Infusions made with other plant matter are tisanes, and separate from tea. Common tisanes include chamomile, lemongrass, yerba maté, mint, hibiscus, and various fruits. These often go by the term “Herbal Tea”, but they are as much tea as peanut butter is a dairy product.

Rooibos sometimes goes by the name “Red Tea” in Africa and the West, but it is also not tea.

It goes without saying that coffee is not tea.

Rarely, the flowers of camellia sinensis are also used to make “tea flower tea”. This can be considered a type of tea or a type of tisane, and is up for debate.

2. Tea terminology

“Tea” (or “cha”) refers to the plant, the leaves, and the beverage. In order to differentiate between the leaves and the beverage when discussing brewing, the resultant liquid is often referred to as “soup” or “liquor”

“Teapot” or “pot” refers to a vessel in which the tea is brewed. This is sometimes confused with “kettle”, which is a vessel in which water is heated before being poured into the teapot.

“Teacup” or “cup” refers to a drinking vessel which contains the tea. In Southeast Asia, most traditional teacups have no handle, and are used filled only partway so that the user can hold it by the rim without burning their fingers. In British-influenced areas, teacups are often dainty, decorated, abd have a small handle. They are also often accompanied by a saucer, a small dish which acts as a coaster, a plate, and a spill-catcher.


A “Teabag” is a small pouch, made of filter paper or mesh, which contains dry tea leaves this is used as a portable way to brew single-servings of tea (or multpliple servings with a large bag or multiple bags in a tea pot.)


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“Loose leaf” refers to tea leaves that do not come in a bag. These are often whole leaves or large pieces, and are considered a premium product when compared to bagged teas.

A “gaiwan” is a small teapot designed to produce a single cup of tea. It is usually a small, circular cup with a lid and saucer. It is designed to be poured with one hand. Gaiwans are popular in China and Japan.

“Tea ceremony” is a brewing style of tea, as well as a ritual. This ritual usually involves multiple vessels, usually including a vessel to heat the water (such as a kettle), a teapot or gaiwan, a “chai hai”, which is a serving vessel the tea liquor is strained into, and cups for drinking. Sometimes, an “aroma cup” is also used.

An “aroma cup” is a narrow tra cup which is not meant for drinking. As part of the tea ceremony, tea can be poured from the chai hai into the aroma cups, and from there into the drinking cups. The participants can then smell the concentrated tea steam before taking their first sip.

A “tea tray” is a tray, usually with a drainage pan undernreath to catch excess liquid, which is used as a platform for the tea ceremony.

A “tea pet” is a small clay figurine. The tea rinse is often poured on these teapets during a tea ceremony, and over time, they absorb the coloration and aromas of tea.

There are many more ceremonial items that we can get into later.

3. Health Benefits of Tea

I try not to get into tea as a health food, as there is conflicting research, and a whole world of false claims. Tea does contain antioxidants, fluorine, and caffeine, all of which can have beneficial effects under some circumstances. It can often also contain pesticides, heavy metals, radiation, and (in some bagged teas) microplastics.

I’ll leave it at that.

4. Types of tea

Note: Tea has a long history, and much of it, especially for the west, is tied up with British colonialism. Some of the terminology is still tainted with colonial names, but I try to do my best to point that out as it arises. I will also try to use Chinese names and terms where appropriate. Knowing these can be helpful when navigating the catalogs of some Chinese teasellers.

First off, tea is generally separated into categories by the types of processing and/or amount of oxidation the leaves undergo. Oxidation is a process in which tea levaes are exposed to the air. This causes the leaves to darken, dry and changes the flavor (and strength) of the tea. The oxidation process makes much of the caffeine in tea leaves more readily available for infusion. Paradoxically, unoxidized tea leaves contain more caffeine, but tea made from oxidized leaves contains more caffeine, as much of the caffeine stays in the unoxidized leaf.

I will try to list the major (and one minor) types in order from least to most processed. Note: there are many exceptions and difficult to categorize teas. This is not a hard and fast set of rules, but more like a group of guidelines.

White Tea or “bai cha”, is made of tea leaves which are wilted and dried (sometimes sun-dried). White tea is not rolled or oxidized. White teas tend to be lighter in taste, liquor color, and caffeine content. They are very high in antioxidants. White teas mostly come from China. Some representative varieties are Silver Needle (baihao yinzhen) and White Peony (bai mu tan).

Green Tea or “lu cha”, is also minimally processed, but Green teas are usually heated to fix the natural chlorophyll and retain their green color. This is often done by charcoal-firing, pan-firing, oven-drying, or steaming. The teas are then usually rolled (and sometimes formed into shaped) before drying. Green tea is not oxidized, Green teas often have a fresh, vegetal or grassy taste, and yellow or green liquor. They are lower in caffeine than black teas, but higher than white. Many varieties of green tea are produced in China and Japan. Some notable Chinese examples include Green Snail (bi lo chun), Dragonwell (long jing), and Gunpowder (zhu cha), which is a smoky green tea rolled into small pellets. Chinese green tea is sometimes mixes with dried jasmine flowers in Jasmine Tea (molihua cha). Some notable Japanese examples of green tea are Sencha and Gyokuro, which are grown for exceptional chlorophyll content (especially Gyokuro) to produce a bright green tea soup, Hojicha, which is roasted in a procelain pot to a golden yellow color, and Kukicha, which includes many tea stems which make the tea taste bright and sweet. A traditional Japanese green tea blend involves a mix of green tea and toasted rice, to make a toasty tea called Genmaicha.

Yellow Tea or “huang cha”, is a rarity, and sometimes lumped in with green teas. Yellow tea is produced in much the same way as green tea, but after heat-fixing, the leaves are piled and “sweltered” in which they undergo light fermentation before being rolled and dried. Yellow teas share a lot ofcharacteristics with green teas, but tend to have a more golden color, and often the grassiness of the flavour is removed, in exchange for something a bit richer and sweeter. Yellow teas tend to be rare, expensive, and hard to find. They are primarily produced in China. Some examples include Jun Shan YinZhen, and Huo Shan Huang Ya.

Note: In Korea, they also have something called “Hwangcha” or yellow tea, but by traditional categorization, this is an Oolong.


Oolong Tea or “wulong cha”, is made from leaves that are partially oxidized before heating, rolling, drying, and firing. Among the different types of teas, Oolong teas have the most variety. Some oolong teas are barely oxidized, making them similar to green teas. Others are nearly fully-oxidized and resemble black teas. A great many fall somewhere in between. Oolongs range from light and floral to full-bodied and roasty to dark and minerally. Traditional oolongs mostly come from China and Taiwan (though other nations such as India, Japan, and South Korea also produce them). Some representative Chinese oolongs include Iron Goddess Tea (tie guan yin), which is traditionally light and floral, but is also readily available in roasted varieties, Phoenix Mountain (dan cong), which is sweet and astringent with fruity and floral notes, and Big Red Robe (da hong pao) which is a type of “Wuyi rock tea” with a distinctive mineral flavor. Taiwanese oolongs, often referred to as “Formosa teas” due to the lingering influence of imperialism. Some representative Taiwanese oolongs include Oriental Beauty (dongfang meiren) is a heavily-oxidized tea (with a name also tinged with western bigotry) with floral notes, and Ali Shan is a jade oolong that tastes of honey. Many westerners are only familiar with oolong as one flavor of tea, the “oolong tea” sold in teabags, which is often in the style of Dongfang Meiren.

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Black Tea or “hong cha”, is tea that is fully oxidized. Many lower grade teas accelerate the oxidzation process with a method known as CTC (crush, tear, curl). Black tea is higher in caffeine and richer in flavor. Much black tea is produced in India, China, and Sri Lanka. Much of what you find in teabags like Lipton or Twinings is Ceylon tea, from Sri Lanka, made using CTC methods (the word Ceylon is another remnant of the British Empire). In China, black teas are called “red tea”, as they refer to something else as “black tea” (see below). Indian teas are generally divided by the estates on which they are grown rather than by a wide range of styles.
Indian black teas traditionally fall into two categories: Assam and Darjeeling. Assam teas are rich and malty. One popular blending is Assam tea with oil from the bergamot citrus, which is called “Earl Grey”. For Darjeelings, see below. Some representative Chinese black teas include Golden Pekoe (feng qing) from the Yunnan province, the perported birthplace of tea, Fuzzy Eyebrow (jin jun mei) from the Fujian province, and Golden Monkey (jin hou cha).

Darjeeling tea is a special case. Unlike the above teas, the leaves in Darjeeling are not processed uniformly. Though Darjeeling is usually considered a type of black tea, it is more like a blend of fully oxidized black tea leaves with less-oxidized or unoxidized leaves. This creates a tea that is more delicate, astringent, and difficult to brew than other black teas, and that is known to have a distinctive “muscatel” wine-like tasting note.

Dark Tea (Post-fermented tea) or “hei cha”, is relatively new to the west, but has a long history in China. These teas are fermented after drying either through aging or wet-piling. By far the most prominent hei cha is puerh, to the point where dark teas are just referred to as "puerh when categorizing, but there are others, such as liu bao which is inoculated with the “gol;den flowers” probiotic fungus, erotium cristatum. Aged (or aging puerh is called “raw” puerh (sheng puerh) and pile-fermented puerh is called “ripe” puerh (shou puerh). Generally, both get better with age, but sheng puerhs are much less drinkable when young, but improve well beyond shou puerhs when given sufficient age. These teas are usually packed tightly into 500 gram cakes called “bings”, though are also sold in smaller cakes or single-cup coins. Dark teas usually brew a very dark thick liquid with ruby hints. Some sheng puerhs can brew up quite a bit lighter in color though.

Lastly, I should also mention Purple Tea. Purple tea is not a specific style of tea, but rather, leaves from a tea plant with a mutation causing the leaves to grow purple in color. Purple tea is higher in antioxidants and can be made into any style of tea. My opinion is that they don’t taste as good as traditional teas and they’re a gimmick, but ymmv.

Later, we’ll get into teawares, brewing methods, and places to buy teas!

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I didn’t know that I wasn’t drinking tea when I drank rooibos until I read this thread.

Thanks for putting this together!

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I wonder if you have thoughts about what I’ve previously purchased as “unicorn grass” - it’s a parasitic plant that only grows on old (they say ancient, but who knows) tea plants. I used to be able to easily find photos of it but as you can imagine with google being how it is now, “unicorn grass tea” just comes up with pictures of unicorns, unicorn infusers, etc, and nothing to do with the thing I’m looking for. I guess most wouldn’t consider it tea, but I wonder since it comes from the tea plant, but isn’t of the tea plant.

Oh, it’s also known as crab’s feet, which is a more direct translation from Chinese. Based on that I found a few photos. Anyway it’s one of my favorite non-caffeinated infusions, I guess you’d say.

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That’s pretty neat! I wasn’t familiar with crab leg tea, but I did a bit of research (read:googling) and it’s a type of mistletoe (hopefully no one is still doing that at their non-religious winter holiday parties). Apparently it grows on all sorts of trees, but it’s especially sought-after from a tea tree.

I wonder if it absorbs any of the tea-compounds from the plant? I suppose if it does, it could, maaaaaybe be considered tea. I’ll assume so and refrain from tapping the “No Tisane” sign in this case.

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It definitely has tea-like flavors, and I’m sure it’s absorbing nutrients from the plant - it’s definitely not technically tea but it’s in a fun limbo there. (it’s also quite good)

Sounds very interesting! I’m always on the lookout for a tea-like tisane for before bed. Rooibos and Olive Leaf have been the closest, but they don’t quite scratch that tea craving (which I get 2 - 3 times daily).

Where do you get it from?

I haven’t been able to find it for ages actually. There are some folks selling it online but it’s often a blend with actual tea. If I find a place to buy it again I’ll report in here.

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I decided to get fancy with tea today.

Probably the most expensive tea in my collection is this aged Ali Shan (high mountain oolong) from Taiwan. I’ve had this tea since 2016, and drink it sparingly. It turns 45 next year, and I might throw it a party.

I do not speak Chinese, but according to google, the text translates to:

Collection of three generations

AGED TEA

Grade: Special lotus fragrance
Production Year: 1980
Place of Origin: Yushan Tea Area, Xinyi Township
Guiding Organization: Xinyi Township Farmers Association

Here’s a look at the leaf before brewing, and again after the second infusion (I put the leaves back in the pot after this, because they are far from spent and still have several infusions left.)


As you can see, tightly rolled teas like this swell up to multiple times their original size. As I say below, you use a lot of leaf for this brewing method.

I brewed this tea using the “gon fu” (or “gong fu” or “kung fu”) method, which involves a large amount of leaf, small amount of water, and very short brew times (15-20 seconds). I used water heated to about 194 °F (90 °C, 363 K) in a variable-temperature kettle.





First, the tea is rinsed by pouring the hot water in the pot, and letting it sit for about ten seconds before pouring it out. It is poured into the other teawares on the tray to get them warmed up. It is poured through the strainer to avoid getting leaf bits in the cups.

After brewing, the liquor is poured out of the pot and through the mesh strainer into the “chai hai” or “faircup”.


The purpose of this is to:

  1. Remove the small leaf chunks and particles. You don’t want them in your drink for obvious reasons.

  2. Mix the tea solution together (the tea at the top of the pot is the weakest, and the tea at the bottom is the strongest. If you pour porevtly into cups (even with a strainer), the person who gets the first cup gets a weaker tea, and the person who gets the last cup gets stronger tea, which is not fair, hence the term “faircup”.

  3. Halt the brewing process. Usually, the pot is larger than the small ceremonial cups by a wide margin, so you will leave some tea in the pot. Because the leaf is still in there, it will continue infusing, so you want an intermediate vessel to hold the surplus tea while you drink.

Of course, if you’re brewing for one person, you could just strain the entire pot into a mug, and skip this step.

From there, I used an aroma cup, which is an extra step, but I wanted to get full enjoyment out of this tea that I drink maybe twice a year.


You place the drinking cup over the aroma cup and turn them upside-down together. If done correctly, the liquid will stay in the aroma cup. You can then slowly lift it and watch the tea spill into the drinking cup.



I placed both cups on these cute yin-yang coasters.

The aroma is buttery, roasty, and very faintly sweet. It has a woodiness to it that often comes with age.

In Chinese tradition, the tea is slurped loudly to express enjoyment. I tend to forgo this when there is another person around, to be considerate.

The tea itself is very roasty and woody. The finish has a faint floral note, but mostly a warm, nutty flavor. The butter of the scent does not come through in the taste. There is no bitterness or astringency.

The second infusion is performed the same way, and came out a bit darker and richer.

The second infusion tends to be my favorite. I’m not sure if this is a common belief, or just me.

Since multiple infusions tend to extract all the caffeine out of the leaf, it’s a good idea to have something to eat, especially if you’re drinking it all yourself. I like something light that has a bit of sugar, but won’t taint the palate. I had some chunks of Piel de Sapo melon (not pictured) alongside the tea.

I’ve paused after the second infusion, but I will make more this evening, which is very nice, as most of the caffeine comes out in the first 2 infusions, but a lot of flavor remains.

I hope you enjoyed this!

EDIT: a note on my tea tray: The plastic collection tray that goes underneath, got old and disintegrated. I have a small baking sheet lined with paper towels underneath, that is a bit small, so I have to be careful not to spill near the edges of the tray.

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I found this listing:

Dragon Tea House is a reputable seller that I’ve purchased many teas from (the 1980 ali shan above was from there).

The listing, like most imported tea listings isn’t 100% clear. I’m not sure if it’s mixed with puerh tea, or just crab leg mistletoe prepared in the style of a puerh. The images looks like mostly “unicorn grass”, but I do see a couple leaves that might be from the tea bush it grew on? It’s pretty rare for anything with puerh tea in it to not be pressed, so I’m assuming those are either part of the Pangxiejiao plant that look like tea leaves, or a couple tea leaves escaped the sorting process. Either way, I’m going to order some and report back.

Note: I do not generally recommend Dragon Tea House because they are extremely expensive.

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While I recognize there is absolutely “proper” tea which is different from a tisane, it could be argued tea is actually a type of tisane, and much as Kleenex has taken over the role of tissue, tea has taken over the role of the omnibus term, and not just in the US. One need only look at Japanese drinks like mugicha, sobacha, and kuromamecha, which use cha in the name, thus co-opting tea for the larger category of steeped drinks.

And with that out of the way, I do appreciate nice tea, but I typically don’t spot for the really pricey stuff. I’m always on the lookout for tea bargains, meaning good stuff that carries a more reasonable price per cup. This is important as I drink tea every day, coffee being too hard on my body for regular consumption.

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I agree wrt tea nomenclature, although it’s clear to me that it’s important in the context of this thread to have a distinction between tea the plant, tea the drink, and tea as in herbal infusions. In the context of my home, when I offer to make tea for someone, offering a tisane would only confuse them.

I’ve only recently gotten back into brewing loose leaf tea for myself on the daily. Right now I enjoy an early grey mixed with lavender leaves in the morning. I like a relaxing morning, what can I say? Gunpowder green is one of my favorite drinks to have, full stop, so I always have a bit of it on hand in case I need a treat.

There’s a local store front in my city that imports loose leaf tea. They have many different varieties and I enjoy their tea very much, but I’ve never really looked into the wider world of high quality teas. How does one judge quality in tea? Is brewing, tasting, and being knowledgeable/experienced the only way?

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I’m also curious about tea storage and shelf life, I’d anyone has any info to share.

When I was in college, the 3rd or 4th attempt I think, I had a friend with incredibly indepth tea knowledge. He taught me the tea/tisane distinction, he showed me many different brewing methods, I had my first pot of puehr shared with him, it was wonderful. Every Wednesday he’d haul a duffle bag full of tea and brewing equipment to campus and educate all of us on the history of tea in the green room between class and rehearsal.

This thread reminded me of his enthusiasm…I’m so grateful when people are so excited about something they share their deep knowledge about it.

Thanks for this thread!

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Your photography is beautiful BTW!

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This was a great read. Thank you!

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If anyone can help me better understand puerh tea, I’ve had some once that I LOVED but when I try to buy cheaper varieties of puerh it mostly just tastes like fish or feet or dirt. There’s affordable black and oolong teas that are lovely, there has to be some affordable puerh that’s also lovely and not feet.

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This thread is the perfect example of what I love about these forums. It’s about sharing knowledge where lots of other sites are about gatekeeping or one specific fandom.

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I will die on the hill that tisane and tea are separate things.

I could give a long list of examples (e.g. peanut butter and apple butter are not types of butter, a train car is not a type of car, sweetbreads are not a type of bread, gameboy is not a type of child, etc. etc.) but ultimately, you wouldn’t call coffee a tisane or a type of tea. Tea already encompasses so much more in terms of volume, prevalence, and variety than coffee, that to lump it in with tisanes feels to me like losing something.

Also, I think if you go to a country with high tea consumption like the UK, India, China, Ireland, Sri Lanka, or Turkey, they consider tea and “herbal tea” or tisane to be different things. It’s mostly coffee-centric areas that lump tisane with tea. Even in America, it’s common to separate tea and herbal tea because tea has caffeine and herbal tea doesn’t (outside of maté, which is usually not considered tisane either, but is treated to it’s own designation like coffee and tea). Maybe it’s the caffeine that makes the difference.

With loose leaf teas, you can often tell by appearance and smell. You can tell when a tea is stale. But unfortunately, there aren’t a great number of resources in the US to learn.

If you’re in the US, I would recommend getting samples from adagio.com they’re affordable, and their descriptions, literature, and website are much more suitable for newcomers to loose leaf tea than most. Their tea is pretty good too! That should at least give you an idea what good, fresh tea should be like. This is how I began my tea journey.

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Puerh definitely should not be fishy or footy, but most of the stuff from American retailers is. It’s hard to find good, affordable stuff without relying on a Chinese exporter.

My favorite puerh on the lower end is these 2011 mengku mini tuos.

About $6 gets you 10 pots worth, but you do have to worry about long international shipping times. I think you would need to order more to get free shipping. It’s affordable if you’re buying in bulk or getting other stuff too, but not great as a standalone purchase.

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Teabags will have expiration dates on the package, so I’ll stick to loose leaf.

This is all from my personal experience and not “official” in any way.

Green tea goes bad the quickest. Store it in an airtight ziploc bag with the air squeezed out in a cool dark place. You can maybe get 3 - 6 months before it starts to lose its flavor.

For white and black teas, same storage, but those will be good a little longer (except Darjeelings, which age a bit lile greens). Maybe 6-12 months? There is a school of thought that white teas improve with excessive age, but I do not subscribe to it.

Oolongs, especially roasted ones, can be good for years. Some of them improve with age.

Puerhs get better with age. Keep them in a cool dark place, but keep the bag slightly open to assist with aging.

All in all, it’s not likely that a tea will go bad (aside from mold if it’s stored in a humid area) over time, and more that the flavor will change. Sometimes that is for the better, sometimes worse.

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