Ep. 163 - It Doesn't Get Eddie Vedder Than This, with Heather Anne Campbell

### Ep. 163 - It Doesn’t Get Eddie Vedder Than This, with Heather Anne Campbell

Special guest Heather Anne Campbell of Whose Line Is It Anyway, Twilight Zone and How Did This Get Played joins the crew to discuss economics, Eddie Vedder, and an extremely good Improv Zone. Original music by Kurt Feldman.

**Questions this week:**

  • 1. Does something need to be done about poor performance and understanding of console transition games? (06:50)
  • 2. What is your favorite video game you’d still consider a bad game? (12:56)
  • 3. What’s the most interesting economic system in a video game? (18:09)
  • 4. What’s the most spectacular video game award show failure? (23:20)
  • 5. Which video game characters would most likely sign up for a UCB class? (29:14)
  • 6. Improv Zone: Video Game Characters in UCB Class (32:31)
  • 7. Question by Patreon Supporter Cera Sophia: What are the underappreciated creative/production roles in video games? (37:20)
  • 8. What can you tell about a person based on their fighting game style? (43:29)
  • 9. What can someone say to convince you to check out a game, in four words or less? (48:31)
  • 10. What is the Neon Genesis Evangelion of video games? (52:41)
  • **LIGHTNING ROUND:** Slogan Slingin’ (57:39)

    **A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:**

  • - [Street Fighter III: Third Strike review](http://www.actionbutton.net/?p=417)
  • - [Pyongyang Racer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_Racer)
  • - [How Did This Get Played?](https://www.earwolf.com/show/how-did-this-get-played/)
  • - [PocketStation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PocketStation)
  • - [Chocobo World](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Chocobo_World) - unlockable FFVIII Pocketstation game
  • - [Gunsport By Necrosoft Games Now Available On Stadia](https://gunsport.tv/)
  • - [Bullet Witch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_Witch)
  • - [Vroom in the Night Sky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vroom_in_the_Night_Sky)
  • - [Beethoven: The Ultimate Canine Caper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beethoven:_The_Ultimate_Canine_Caper)
  • - [Not Treasure Hunter](http://psxdatacenter.com/games/J/N/SLPS-00274.html)
  • - [Highlander: The Last of the MacLeods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander:_The_Last_of_the_MacLeods)
  • - [EarthBound](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EarthBound), available legally on the SNES Classic or illegally on the internet
  • - [Upright Citizens Brigade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upright_Citizens_Brigade)
  • - [Yuzo Koshiro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzo_Koshiro)
  • - [Adam Badowski](https://twitter.com/AdamBadowski)
  • - [Hirokazu Yasuhara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirokazu_Yasuhara)
  • - [Patrick Miller](https://twitter.com/pattheflip)
  • - [Shinta Nojiri](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinta_Nojiri)
  • - [NeverDead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeverDead)
  • - [Nano Breaker](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nano_Breaker)
  • - [The Bouncer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bouncer_%28video_game%29)
  • - [Vin Diesel Wheelman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelman_%28video_game%29)
  • - [Xenogears](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenogears)
  • - [Neon Genesis Evangeion 64](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_(video_game))
  • - [Neon Genesis Evangelion: Girlfriend of Steel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion:_Girlfriend_of_Steel)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **[Frankie Dupes](https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi)**: ["Blind Box" Vintage Video Game Magazine subscription](https://the-video-game-history-foundation.myshopify.com/collections/featured-products/products/blind-box-vintage-game-magazine-subscription)
    **[Brandon](https://twitter.com/necrosofty/):** [Petal Crash](https://galaxytrail.itch.io/petal-crash), [developer's diary thread on the insert credit forums](https://forums.insertcredit.com/d/274-my-game-petal-crash/)
    **[Tim](https://twitter.com/108)**: Enjoy some kind of a beverage.
    **[Heather Anne Campbell](https://twitter.com/heathercampbell/)**: [Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales](https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/marvels-spider-man-miles-morales/), [Directly donate to VGHF](https://gamehistory.org/donate/)

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    The question about favorite games that are kind of bad sort of reminds me that I've been meaning to make a thread on here, not sure how to phrase it, maybe “Games you love to hate?” It would mostly be an excuse for me to talk about Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, I game I enjoy playing, and I especially love looking at, but hate thinking about.

    Oh also I'm finally playing Earthbound on my SNES Classic! I've played before but never made it much last Threed.

    I like the improve zone. The reason? The anxiety and resentment it creates

    If there isn't a Yakuza side mission where Kiryu is talked into a UCB class, there should be.

    so you guys gotta learn to love it if you want it to go away. how's that for a catch-22?

    Massive props to Heather Anne Campbell because she did what I could not bring myself to do circa 1999: she imported a PocketStation. I kinda regret not buying one as many of my favorite PS1 games actually supported it. Ridge Racer 4, Ape Escape, & Street Fighter Alpha 3 were all games I played to death and had various levels of silly PocketStation functionality. And yeah, there was Final Fantasy VIII and I did not like and still do not like Final Fantasy VIII and maybe I would have enjoyed it more if I could have raised a Chocobo with a memory card/pedometer/tamagotchi combo device.

    @yeso#10878

    Dance, monkeys, dance

    the appeal of the Improv Zone, to me, is seeing a crew of people, who generally really know what they’re talking about, forced onto their back foot for six minutes. Also Jaffe's laugh makes me laugh.

    @GigaSlime#10872 I played through with my partner for the first time earlier this year. It holds up!! The ending is even better than you'd hope.

    you can still buy a pocketstation everyone! they're not expensive either. and all the “pocketstation game collection” discs are dirt cheap.

    I've gotten several messages thanking me for calling out how the improv zone sucks so it seems to be a polarizing thing here.

    @GigaSlime absolutely start that thread!

    @exodus#10906

    The improv zone is a "sometimes" food

    I dont blame you guys for bailing sometimes if the prompt is bad, but appreciate it when ya'll at least make an attempt at it.

    How well it seems to go seems to really depend a lot on the prompt you're given. A improv game about characters doing an improv game was probably a bridge too far for people who already dont like improv games.

    I really thought people could go somewhere from my sailors query

    Came here to say I‘m glad that the IMPROV ZONE IS BAAAAAACK. I think about Frank’s Iwata?? impression when he won't leave his hotel room before a big conference speech often.

    I could've done ryo sakazaki but all I could think about was him looking for his sister and shooting giant energy balls

    Apparently there was an Art of Fighting OVA, where Ryo has black hair and Robert is an intolerable douchebag.

    https://youtu.be/X3t9rcFNFr0

    Having now finished it, I have to say I thought this was a particularly funny episode. Everyone is firing on all cylinders.

    >

    @exodus#10906 and all the “pocketstation game collection” discs are dirt cheap.

    Do you mean the games that support PocketStation are all cheap, or that there is some kind of disc that has a bunch of the PocketStation games on them? I did some Googling but couldn't figure out what you meant.

    Improv Zone was great! Can't pass up the opportunity when you have a professional on the show.

    Great episode, with some particularly interesting questions that I kind of couldn‘t believe hadn’t been asked before. And Heather Anne Campbell was a fantastic guest.

    I'm sort of ambivalent about the improve zone, but what has really begun to grind my gears is how often tim rogers complains endlessly about... complete non-issues? Maybe it's become part of his "persona," but man, for a guy who gets paid a _whole lot_ of money to make YouTube videos, he sure does seem grumpy.

    ooo on the ‘What’s the most spectacular video game award show failure?’ question, you all need to watch Cybermania '94: The Ultimate Gamer Awards on TBS.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af9M8llS9JA

    Or at least have a look at this
    https://learntocounter.com/cybermania-94-the-ultimate-gamer-awards-sing-along-guide/