Ep. 172 - Dithligonal Heckahedron

So Brandon said Megaman in a silly way and the first thing that popped in my head was that I wish someone said Shin Megaman Tensei.

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@espercontrol#17446 What are the best bombs in video games? (53:40)

The Crater Maker combo for the Sky Hammer Mortar in Vigilante 8.

may have mentioned this book on the forum before, but this Robert coover novel centers on a freak game dice roll basically destroying a nerd's life

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Universal_Baseball_Association,_Inc.,_J._Henry_Waugh,_Prop.

it predates videogames and I think is about tabletop baseball simulators like strat-o-matic (don’t know if anyone's dad, grandad, or uncle tried to get them to play this when they’d rather be playing mlb the show)

but it’s based around cards with probability tables drawn from MLB stats

https://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/10933692_10205616871808710_1428052228755936445_n.jpg

there's no cheating or obfuscation of potential outcomes. Rather than show percentages, they show the actual full range of possibilities on each card

I was curious about Jaffe's comment about new listeners so I checked the charts just for shits and giggles.

Currently #62 in US Videogames

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Currently #22 in Canada Videogames

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I really liked Brandon's comments about learning to write in other people's styles as well as developing your own, and just doing your thing until somebody notices.

One thing I learned after writing my thread about [Virtual World](https://forums.insertcredit.com/d/192-90s-vr-lbe-and-the-virtual-geographic-league-past-legacy) here last year is that there are people out there who want to help you with your quest, but you have to start your quest by yourself before they can help you. If you want people to take interest in your writing it helps enormously to have some work they can look at already out there. If you can speak authoritivly on a niche subject in an effort to get others interested in it, that can sometimes as a side effect attract the attention of other people involved in that subject. That post resulted in me getting to talk to some cool people (because when I reached out to them I could point them to the thing I'd written, or in one case they'd already read it) and I recently got a message about it from another pod owner, months later. I never thought that would happen when I wrote it.

I appreciate this forum for being a good venue for me to go out on a limb and occasionally try to do some longer form writing, something I've never been professionally paid to do. I would encourage others who might have the same itch to just give it a shot and see what happens.

But I guess the big difference there is that while it would be a beautiful dream I dont see myself ever working hard toward trying to make a career out of this, I'm just doing it for "the love of the game", and I already feel lucky that even a small number of people noticed.

@yeso#17560 wow I really want to read this and check out the rule set, this seems interesting!

Yeah, I think one place we tend to fall down is thinking we need to be The Best or The Authority on a thing, when we can just be contributing to the whole, as you (@Moon) have certainly done here. It‘s all about increasing the understanding of a thing, but we (especially americans) feel like we have to turn all that into MONEY because we don’t have enough money to live otherwise.

Witcher 3... i dunno man, I played about 12 hours of that game! I got to novigrad and they were like LET ME REGALE YOU WITH THE LORE and I extremely did not care. after a bunch of middling experiences with a couple bright spots (I liked every quest having to do with ghosts) I was like... why am I playing this? I don't enjoy the combat, everyone in this game hates me for no reason even though they're constantly asking me for help and that's actually the only thing they see me do, I look the same as everyone except I have white hair so the racism analogy falls apart, and sometimes I fall off a cliff while exploring and have to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to get back to where I was.

I dunno, it was alright! But it was really giving me the strong impression that I'd rather be doing other stuff. I might give it a shot again some day but... I'm going to have to be really bored in a house full of video games or something big is going to have to change in the game in terms of the story. I have to say this bloody baron thing everyone seems to love sounds incredibly stupid to me. Sorry!!!!!!!!

My buddy who played through the whole thing said the good part is the DLC really, but I'm just not like... enjoying the characters or the world or the gameplay very much, so... I can't imagine there being a payoff that's worth it.

Sometimes stuff like this makes me feel like a big weirdo, everybody loves this game! what do I know.

@Syzygy#17556 I don‘t think it’s explicitly come up on mic, but Mega Man 8 is the Insert Credit Favorite Mega Man game for this reason, and this reason only:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmMispgpUs0

Oh right, I have several reasons why mega man 8 is my favorite:

  1. the music. it‘s got this “forward-sounding” mix which I really like, which is shared by very few other games, notably saturn bomberman. It’s also got the 3D stereo thing going on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oujCjVisaNY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2impLc_1A

2) the graphics. Huge sprites! lush animation! (especially on saturn) and the vibe of the visuals matches the music extremely well. and so many "designed for a CRT" effects in there too!

3) as a run and gun I just like the way it works more than the NES games (very stilted) and the SNES games (very much a half-step feeling between stilted and modern to me), and the X games don't do it for me because they go too far away from the core.

Pretty simple reasons but yeah, Mega Man 8 is the only mega man I need really. the doctor wawwy thing is funny but I actually do legitimately like mega man 8!!

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@SuperEffective#17553 Shin Megaman Tensei.

i'm dying
i'm dead

btw if anyone is new to willie nelson and overwhelmed, i recommend Red Headed Stranger, it's widely considered one of the greats of all time

https://open.spotify.com/album/5aEtg4dxdBk4pj6SJ3hNsM

Just want to chime in to say that I'm glad Tim called out Lupin for the Sherlock shlock that it is







good first question, I’m paused just thinking about all the epic video game birds now.



hi this is camacho with the dithligonal heckahedron, we‘re calling to gather who you’re voting for this year

@exodus#17566

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Witcher 3… i dunno man, I played about 12 hours of that game! I got to novigrad and they were like LET ME REGALE YOU WITH THE LORE and I extremely did not care. after a bunch of middling experiences with a couple bright spots (I liked every quest having to do with ghosts) I was like… why am I playing this? I don‘t enjoy the combat, everyone in this game hates me for no reason even though they’re constantly asking me for help and that‘s actually the only thing they see me do, I look the same as everyone except I have white hair so the racism analogy falls apart, and sometimes I fall off a cliff while exploring and have to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to get back to where I was.


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I dunno, it was alright! But it was really giving me the strong impression that I’d rather be doing other stuff. I might give it a shot again some day but… I'm going to have to be really bored in a house full of video games or something big is going to have to change in the game in terms of the story. I have to say this bloody baron thing everyone seems to love sounds incredibly stupid to me. Sorry!!!

I've said to brandon before but the only good part of the witcher 3 is the DLC. The main game is just kind of like who the heck cares! You start off feeling like woah should I have played 1 and 2 I've no idea what's going on! but nope you would be just as confused either way. The baron story line is stupid! The only thing I could do at the end of was just lol.

With the DLC the pretense that the story is some way serious is basically gone. Once they free themselves from even bothering to be 10% serious they end up having way more fun. The bank robbery mission in the DLC is good fun!

I also think the combat sucks! You're glued to the floor!!

I was thinking a lot about chance after listening and I think the best use of chance is done behind closed doors. There’s something extremely frustrating about being told you have a 90% chance to hit and missing and nothing at all frustrating about hitting 90% of the time and then missing occasionally never knowing the percentages. All I’m saying is just don’t tell me. Ignorance is bliss. I’m so tired right now that I can’t figure out which game I’m thinking of that does this - tells you your chance to hit before you act. Is it Final Fantasy Tactics?

Another thing I got thinking on in this episode is the “getting into the biz” question. I don’t work in video games, however I work in another field with a similar labor model. That being: work for many years (sometimes decades) at poverty wages or for literally nothing, and at the end maybe you might win the jackpot, which is being paid a living wage to do the exact same thing. I was one of the extremely lucky ones in that I did get that living wage job. Some of that was hard work, or “talent” or perseverance or whatever - but almost everyone I know who did not make it where I did has those things as well. A really huge part of my success is pure RNG luck. Right place at the right time - decisions made at age 20 that I had no idea would pay dividends at age 30 - stuff like that. So what do I tell the people I advise all the time who want to do what I do? I tell them the truth about that. There are things you can do to increase your chance of success, but they are limited and at the end of the day you will be subjected to the highest stakes dice roll of your life. Since my entire field is economically dependent upon the exploited labor of those working through this cycle, it can be hard to think about this. But that’s the reality and it sucks. It sucks hard.

@CidNight#17641 I think the modern XCOM games have specifically been called out for this…

In other discussions on the subject I have heard Into the Breach and Mario and Rabbids brought up as more satisfying ways of handling probability in strategy games. In the former you ALWAYS know the outcome of your next action. This changes the game design on a fundamental level, however, and makes it more akin to a puzzle game imo. The latter only has 0%, 50%, and 100% probability increments from what I recall. A 50-50 chance to hit something seems more intuitive and (regardless of what calculations are going on in the background) will probably be less frustrating when it misses.

edit: sorry, just realized @espercontrol already mentioned Rabbids in the very first post! I still plan on playing it myself--sounds like they really nailed making an accessible tactics/strategy game.

@marlfuchs2#17565 it's a fun game for extreme baseball psychos, and does a fair job of modeling the negotiating of probabilities that the strategic layer of the game deals with. No real reason to play it now that OOTP baseball is around except for novelty, which I suppose is a decent reason to play a game

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but this weeks winner was the friends we made along the way


My favorite french fry moment in Yakuza was discovering I can play the entirety of Virtual-On Kiwami 2, that was pretty great.

Still paused, still thinking about birds

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Sorry I just can’t stop thinking about how many good video game birds there are.