Ep. 175 - Just Wanna Murder Kids Again, with Topher "Docfuture" Florence

### Ep. 175 - Just Wanna Murder Kids Again, with Topher “Docfuture” Florence

[Topher “Docfuture” Florence](https://twitter.com/topherflorence) joins the panel to cover holographic divorce, appeasement of the Froot Brute contingent, and Lammypedia. Original music by Kurt Feldman.

**Questions this week:**

  • 1. Previously on Insert Credit 31: Design a game for the Star Trek holodeck. (06:36)
  • 2. Which games in genres with traditionally minimal or completely absent narratives have the most compelling stories? (12:05)
  • 3. What would Animal Crossing be like if Tom Nook were as villainous as internet memes say he is? (17:38)
  • 4. Which corporate mascot has the most potential as the star of a great video game? (22:43)
  • 5. If there was a Friends video game, what would the strats be to speedrun it? (28:59)
  • 6. Patreon Supporter MoxBagel asks: In an alternate reality your favorite game that deserved a sequel but never got one just had its 10th game. What is it like? (33:31)
  • 7. What are the good Twitch streams and Let’s Plays for the discerning Insert Crediter? (38:10)
  • 8. Which video game characters should guest star in the next season of Scooby-Doo, and what should their episodes be about? (43:18)
  • 9. From Liz Ryerson: What would a DocFuture prestige TV show look like? (48:53)
  • 10. What is the Dog Police of video games? (54:05)
  • **LIGHTNING ROUND**: Death by Degrees (57:08)


  • - [Dilton Doiley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilton_Doiley)
  • - [Archie Meets the Punisher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Meets_the_Punisher)
  • - [Holodeck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodeck)
  • - [Facade](https://www.playablstudios.com/facade)
  • - [The Orville](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orville)
  • - [Seaman](https://www.mobygames.com/game/seaman)
  • - [Black Tiger](https://www.mobygames.com/game/black-tiger)
  • - [Bonk's Revenge](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bonks-revenge)
  • - [Katamari Damacy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/katamari-damacy)
  • - [Ribbit King](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ribbit-king)
  • - [Mitch Hedberg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Hedberg)
  • - [Tom Nook donates 90% of his proceeds to an orphanage](https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/Tom_Nook#Trivia)
  • - [Yo! Noid](https://www.mobygames.com/game/yo-noid)
  • - [Chester Cheetah: Wild Wild Quest](https://www.mobygames.com/game/chester-cheetah-wild-wild-quest)
  • - [Chester Cheetah: Too Cool to Fool](https://www.mobygames.com/game/chester-cheetah-too-cool-to-fool)
  • - [Tony & Friends: New Adventures - Invasion in Kellogg's Land](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/tony-friends-new-adventures-invasion-in-kelloggs-land)
  • - [Flo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flo_(Progressive))
  • - [Cap'n Crunch's Crunchling Adventures](https://www.mobygames.com/game/capn-crunchs-crunchling-adventure)
  • - [Chex Quest](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/chex-quest)
  • - [I Wanna Be The Guy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/i-wanna-be-the-guy-the-movie-the-game)
  • - [Deception](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tecmos-deception)
  • - [KFC Dating Sim](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1121910/I_Love_You_Colonel_Sanders_A_Finger_Lickin_Good_Dating_Simulator/)
  • - [Crazy Craving, the "Me Want Honeycomb" guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt6qKQ1e4EA)
  • - [Friends: The One With All The Trivia](https://www.mobygames.com/game/friends-the-one-with-all-the-trivia)
  • - [Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures](https://www.mobygames.com/game/pac-man-2-the-new-adventures)
  • - [Shatterhand](https://www.mobygames.com/game/shatterhand)
  • - [Um Jammer Lammy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/um-jammer-lammy)
  • - [EyeToy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeToy)
  • - [Linda^3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/turbografx-cd/linda-)
  • - [For Frog the Bell Tolls](https://www.mobygames.com/game/kaeru-no-tame-ni-kane-wa-naru)
  • - [Video Chess](https://www.twitch.tv/videochess)
  • - [Fallout: New Vegas - You Only Live Once](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwH1xJhcXG0dR5myFpRtaOkOFP67j4et6)
  • - [Lance McDonald's PT Explorations](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2LIfEkuP8BuZ9tO9YP4WbRjjWO9uqec8)
  • - [Retro Pals](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqvgC_MKv4CM0clToGfACvw)
  • - [Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo_and_Guess_Who%3F)
  • - [Hanna-Barbera's Pac-Man show](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_(TV_series))
  • - [Kids Incorporated](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086744/)
  • - [Hammerman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammerman)
  • - [Life on Mars (American series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars_(American_TV_series))
  • - [WandaVision](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9140560/)
  • - [Sex House](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0App7QizQCU&t=5s)
  • - [Kevin Can F**k Himself](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9257258/)
  • - [The King of Comedy (1982)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085794/)
  • - [Dog Police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Police)
  • - [Strong Bad](https://homestarrunner.com/)
  • - [Hampster Dance](https://hamster.dance/hamsterdance/)
  • - [Frog Fractions](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1194840/Frog_Fractions_Game_of_the_Decade_Edition/)
  • - [Boggy B](https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Boggy_B_(character))
  • - [Tiny Kong](https://www.mariowiki.com/Tiny_Kong)
  • - [SHODAN](https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/SHODAN)
  • - [Commander Shepard](https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Commander_Shepard)
  • - [Huang Lee](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Huang_Lee)
  • - [Axel](https://kingdomhearts.fandom.com/wiki/Axel)
  • - [Pimple](https://battletoads.fandom.com/wiki/Pimple)
  • - [Brock](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Brock)
  • - [Happy Mask Salesman](https://zelda.gamepedia.com/Happy_Mask_Salesman)
  • - [Remeer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_7th_Saga)
  • - [Blue Suede Goo](https://clayfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Blue_Suede_Goo)
  • - [Mr. Resetti](https://nookipedia.com/wiki/Mr._Resetti)
  • - [Battle Arena Toshinden](https://www.mobygames.com/game/battle-arena-toshinden)
  • - [MDK](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mdk)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **Frank**: [Phantasy Star IV: Ludonarrative and the Artistic Value of Classic Games](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A5yY8hIYmo)
    **Brandon:** [The Baddest by Toshinobu Kubota](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baddest_(Toshinobu_Kubota_album)), [The Changin' Times of Ike White](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9906262/) (2019), **THE ALL NEW [insertcredit.com](http://insertcredit.com) !!!**
    **Topher**: [Lunatic Obscurity](https://lunaticobscurity.blogspot.com/)

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    @espercontrol#20277 The King of Comedy (1982)

    Sad to hear Brandon had a bad time with this, it's one of my favourite films (favourite enough to be horrified when I saw the trailer for Joker). But I guess when I saw it many years ago I remember it being promoted as a drama, so maybe that made a difference in how I perceived it? It probably helped that I was also already a fan of Sandra Bernhard. Anyway, coming at it from the drama angle, I found it easy to find the humour in it as a sort of social satire.

    Movies are weird like that sometimes though, in that they need to be assigned a genre for marketing purposes but it doesn't always fit very well. Best recent example I can think of is Get Out, which was promoted as a horror film, and everyone talked about as a horror (including Jordan Peele himself, to be fair), but which I experienced very clearly as a black comedy - just one that employed horror tropes throughout.

    Anyway, great episode. And a guest suggestion, since you asked - would love to hear Heather Anne Campbell on the show again sometime.

    Yeah, I misspoke when I said I hated it and tried to walk it back - it just made me really uncomfortable. I have a hard time watching people do stuff I know is terrible and knowing it will end badly, basically. It‘s basically the same reason I can’t watch curb your enthusiasm!

    If one of your objectives in getting guests is finding people that you can talk about super obscure video games with, I feel like there are quite a few members of this forum who could be very interesting guests! I'm not going to nominate anyone in particular, but there are so many people on here who consistently wow me with their various writings. To be honest, I find pretty much everyone on this forum more interesting than, like, 95% of the well known video game people on twitter and youtube.

    @Syzygy#20322 that‘s a very good point that I hadn’t considered

    Dog cop of video games

    Worms Armageddon 64 (i have a story about this game that involves me being threatened with a knife and the dude trying to punch through my car window)


    @exodus#20313 Yeah, I misspoke when I said I hated it and tried to walk it back - it just made me really uncomfortable.

    It's okay man, you're allowed to hate stuff. I guess maybe not publicly, on the internet - that makes people crazy a lot of the time. But in this case, I give you my personal permission to feel however you want about the film I like.

    I get it though, I do - I liked Curb for quite a while but fell off it for similar reasons, it wasn't fun for me watching Larry be an asshole anymore. To each their own innit

    Really though I didn't hate it! Also hate is such a strong word for a well crafted thing - it was just made for a different kind of person is maybe what I should say.

    This is a weird thing but one of my favorite parts of the show is the moment in the opening where the rules are explained and the buzzer sound plays under Jaffe's first mention of it. It sometimes feels so epic to me.

    Figured I'd bring this up as theres been talk of format changes. Love when you guys lean into the opening.

    This episode is doing something in my podcast app (‘Podcast Addict’) that is super weird and that I‘ve never seen before.

    The podcast episode has a YouTube icon appended to the episode icon, and when I hit ’play‘ I’m taken to YouTube and shown a 90s commercial for Honey Comb cereal featuring that CG monster that screams “Me Want Honeycomb!”

    This is kind of funny, and very weird. Also, of course, excited to listen to the ep when I sort an alternative way of getting at it!


    Ribbit King was the game that felt a little Mitch Hedbergian, yes? I feel I should try it, then.

    Oh, I also meant to say that even though I've only been in the forum/listening to the show for a few months, I feel like any of the old Idle Thumbs dudes would make solid guests for the show. But if you're not already friends with them then the point is somewhat moot.

    Oh dang - you got Docfuture! His stuff on youtube is great if you've never seen it



    @treefroggy#20337 I love the tin can Animal Crossing police station… The janky structures in GC Animal Crossing like this one and The Dump make that game feel so distinct. I love it.

    @saddleblasters#20320 It's funny that you said that because I get precisely that feeling with you all the time saddle! Go be a guest of the show!

    I believe that is the common interpretation of what pac man is eating yes

    When I saw this Rare Christmas card depicting a very nervous looking Banjo, I assumed it was because he was clearly holding a [Holy Hand Grenade](https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Holy_Hand_Grenade#:~:text=The%20Holy%20Hand%20Grenade%20(aka,almost%20every%20main%20game%20since.) from Worms:


    Accepting this headcanon as true, it is a trivial exercise to complete this connection to Tiny Kong

    @exodus#20331 they need good mics as well!!!

    @Girard#20364 hahahaha WHAT?!

    Okay I see the problem! The mp3 wasn't linked in the post so the rss feed. It's fixed now. So refresh your feed and it should be okay!

    @shane#20419 thank you Shane! I was just in the process of writing up an email to you to figure out what was going on and of course you identified and solved the problem before I could even finish. big ups!!

    @espercontrol#20425 the problem was me!!! hahaha