Ep. 204 - Hoodie Bones, with Mathew Kumar and Ash Parrish

### Ep. 204 - Hoodie Bones, with Mathew Kumar and Ash Parrish

Leading game industry professionals and Insert Credit Show regulars [Mathew Kumar](https://twitter.com/mathewkumar) and [Ash Parrish](https://twitter.com/adashtra) rejoin the panel for Mario voice cast announcements, Bayon3tta, and esports. Original music by Kurt Feldman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7EvluQYTA

**Questions this week:**

  • 1. From [Brandon Sheffield](https://twitter.com/necrosofty): What games have been helped or hindered by having a tertiary gameplay system? (3:00)
  • 2. Was the Mario movie voice cast announcement really that bad? (09:17)
  • 3. In a side scrolling game, how large should the player character be? (15:13)
  • 4. Where does Bayonetta go from here? (20:22)
  • 5. What is the greatest unsolvable problem in game design? (24:45)
  • 6. Dirtbag Tiger Tiger asks three questions and for some reason Jaffe allows it (29:45)
  • 7. How do you report on mods and fan projects, knowing that more attention might get them shut down? (35:02)
  • 8. What’s going on in the Overwatch League lately? (39:10)
  • 9. How concerned should we be about video game censorship in China? (48:34)
  • 10. For real though, what is the Mamma Mia! of video games? (54:49)
  • **LIGHTNING ROUND**: Mash-up Merch (59:25)

    **A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:**

  • - [Hey, Bayonetta, what is the main ingredient of guacamole??](https://twitter.com/I_KiskA_/status/1444638008108584960?s=20)
  • - [Dungeon Explorer](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-cd/dungeon-explorer)
  • - [Save Ribbons](https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Ink_Ribbon)
  • - [Amnesia series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/amnesia-series)
  • - [Fable](https://www.mobygames.com/game/fable-)
  • - [Mario casting news](https://kotaku.com/shigeru-miyamoto-announces-cast-for-upcoming-mario-movi-1847734853)
  • - [Chris Pratt](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0695435/)
  • - [Charles Martinet reading paragraphs as Mario](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qevVLEYFfC4)
  • - [Nolan North](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0636046/)
  • - [Dana Carvey](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001022/)
  • - [Martin Short](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001737/)
  • - [Only Murderers in the Building](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12851524/)
  • - [Giancarlo Esposito](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002064/)
  • - [Bob Hoskins](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001364/)
  • - [John Leguizamo](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000491/)
  • - [The Lego Movie (2014)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1490017/)
  • - [Paulie Walnuts](https://sopranos.fandom.com/wiki/Paulie_Gualtieri)
  • - [Final Fight series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/final-fight-series)
  • - [God Hand](https://www.mobygames.com/game/god-hand)
  • - [Super Mario 3D World](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii-u/super-mario-3d-world)
  • - [Hollow Knight](https://www.mobygames.com/game/hollow-knight)
  • - [Bayonetta](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bayonetta)
  • - [Fly Me To The Moon cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mceFmnAJLL4)
  • - [Moon River cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqGU6AWQXvE)
  • - [That's Amore](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHEojamzcTE)
  • - [Blue Moon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw1ZC6sZjIY)
  • - [Hideki Kamiya](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Kamiya)
  • - [Bizarro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro)
  • - [New World](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/new-world_)
  • - [Ultima Online](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/ultima-online)
  • - [Emotion Engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion_Engine)
  • - [Dynasty Warriors series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dynasty-warriors-series)
  • - [Hyrule Warriors](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii-u/hyrule-warriors)
  • - [Berserk and the Band of the Hawk](https://www.mobygames.com/game/berserk-and-the-band-of-the-hawk)
  • - [Persona 5 Strikers](https://www.mobygames.com/game/persona-5-strikers)
  • - [Final Fantasy XV ramen ad](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Cup_Noodles)
  • - [Ronald Reagan](https://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/Ronald_Reagan)
  • - [SAGE](https://sagexpo.org/)
  • - i'm not gonna link you to Zone animations, sorry
  • - [The Shanghai Dragons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Dragons)
  • - [Geguri](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geguri)
  • - [Ted Lasso](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10986410/)
  • - [China limits online gaming for children to 3 hours per week](https://www.npr.org/2021/08/30/1032489883/china-kids-video-games-limits)
  • - [Chinese Overwatch teams boycott South Korean player](https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/05/06/overwatch-league-china-boycott-saebyeolbe/)
  • - [Genshin Impact censorship](https://twitter.com/JusticeKazzy_/status/1313566388796227585)
  • - [John Cena apologizes for calling Taiwan a country](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-cena-taiwan-apology-china/)
  • - [Devotion](https://www.mobygames.com/game/devotion)
  • - [Mamma Mia! (2008)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795421/)
  • - [ABBA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABBA)
  • - [ABBA Virtual London concert](https://variety.com/2021/music/news/abba-voyage-virtual-concert-1235078140/)
  • - [Sonic CD](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-cd_)
  • - [Make My Video: Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-cd/make-my-video-marky-mark-and-the-funky-bunch)
  • - [Sonic Mania](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-mania)
  • - [Street Fighter The Movie The Video Game](https://www.mobygames.com/game/street-fighter-the-movie)
  • - [Kylie Minogue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylie_Minogue)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **Mathew**: [National Day of Truth and Reconciliation](https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/campaigns/national-day-truth-reconciliation.html), [Commission Reports](https://nctr.ca/records/reports/), [Native-Land.ca](https://native-land.ca/)
    **Brandon:** [Shuumi Land Tax](https://sogoreate-landtrust.org/shuumi-land-tax/), [Mntu by Ushangvagush](https://ushangavash.bandcamp.com/album/mntu)
    **Ash**: [Celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day Oct. 11th](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Peoples%27_Day), [Sable](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sable)

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    >

    i’m not gonna link you to Zone animations, sorry

    Coward!

    I'm here to second the thing that Ash said about narrative arcs in esports and how they are often as dramatic and compelling as sports shonen manga.

    I don't follow a lot of esports but the one that I do follow is competitive Tetris (i once had ambitions of participating in the ctwc) and last year the final to the Classic Tetris World Championship was between two brothers who were 13 and 15 at the time, competing from the same house and [that last match ](https://youtu.be/dtLQOIwdjX4)was so good and dramatic. The little brother made an unbelievable comeback after loosing two rounds and it was amazing.

    And this year's championship is starting this Saturday in case anyone is interested.

    I was trying to think of who‘s an equivalent type of actor that they might have cast as Mario that I’d have been happier with. I think I would have loved to see Paul Rudd get the part. I‘ve enjoyed his comedic stuff more than probably any other of those Avengers dudes (especially anything he’s done with David Wain and Michael Showalter) and given that he's well-known for having done that SNES commercial early in his career it would feel sort like things coming full circle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSBFw93V3Rg

    (Is that Tony Jay doing the voiceover???"

    3ayonetta?

    The best size for the player character in a sidescroller is “small enough that you can get away with not drawing a face,” is what I've decided, based on playing some of those Casltevanias recently. And Celeste! However Sonic without eyes would be stupid, so there are exceptions.

    >

    @“GigaSlime”#p44760 Is that Tony Jay doing the voiceover???

    holy god

    What is the greatest unsolvable problem in game design?

    Fuckin doors, dude. And moving platforms. And Ladders. Basically all impossible to do elegantly

    it‘s hard to know what to think about the China stuff and I’m sure difficult to talk about. Just seems impossible to know what‘s actually going on especially in the context of a media pushing a new cold war or at least a new national enemy narrative. It’s good at least to point out the glass houseness of the situation don't really know what else you can do

    yeah, it‘s complicated alright! obviously I don’t think they should be limiting game time over there, but I also think western (government) criticisms of it are hollow and envious.

    I never really saw Musou games as strictly just the genre of a Musou game, but rather, a natural evolution into the modern franchise Beat-Em-Up genre.

    Outside of throwbacks like Double Dragon Neon, Streets of Rage 4, that new TMNT, and indies that mimic these, the big studio beat-em-up version is now a Musou game. Thinking of old franchises that could take advantage a Musou title as if it were the new Beat-Em-Up: TMNT, Masters of the Universe, Bucky O' Hare, Transformers already got one on the PS2...

    I feel like dynasty warriors has been one of the last vestiges of the B game. I don‘t especially like the games but have bought them when super cheap just bc it’s nice to hang out with those menus/sound effects/art style and level of tech for a while

    @“yeso”#p45104

    >

    last vestiges of the B game

    I think the Earth Defense Force series is also squarely in this catagory

    A recent example of a company working with fan translators is the Trails series. The Geofront localization text is going to be used as the basis of the official NIS America release of the Crossbell duology. Very much seems like a smart move and a win-win. https://geofront.esterior.net/2021/06/25/from-fantasy-to-reality-our-partnership-with-nis-america/

    I appreciated this episodes recommendations, which is saying a lot, as I guess I have a lot of complicated feelings about all that and have been feeling just weary about it in general. It‘s still kind of… surreal, to be honest, to see/hear anyone talk about it, and this is cynical of me but it is very hard to escape the suspicion that most people and institutions doing so are doing so mostly if not entirely because they feel they have recognition or sympathy to gain from doing it, so it does make a difference when people are doing it where I don’t have a reason to believe that‘s the reason they’re doing it. If that makes sense.

    I'm following a compulsion to I guess maybe see if there's any way I could follow through on what I'm going to interpret as an invitation to open that topic up in a communal space I like a lot, and say that if anyone ever wanted to ask questions about indigenous stuff, I would be happy to have conversations about it. I mean, you know, I may even feel the need to say that how we do things specifically avoids using static, material, impersonal forms of communication of information for good reasons.

    I mean, I am not going to volunteer more personal information unprompted, so, with regards to the worth of what I can share about the subject, I _am_ just a guy, but also, I'm not _just_ a guy, if you know what I mean.

    Anyway. Yeah, I dunno. I am a person who enjoys the process of educating, and I generally feel this is a place that is at least passively hostile to the sort of person I wouldn't want to volunteer that part of myself to, so if anyone would want to discuss stuff of that nature, maybe especially with regards to stuff you may feel, I dunno, intimidated about asking elsewhere, I would enjoy the idea of having those conversations.

    Anyway videogames

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