Ep. 212 - This Game Is Legal Grounds for Divorce

### Ep. 212 - This Game Is Legal Grounds for Divorce

The panel covers the only Funko Pop Tim Rogers owns, the worst gravy text in the history of video games, and Brandon Sheffield saying “poggers.” Edited by Esper Quinn, original music by Kurt Feldman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwpvtArnJQ

**Questions this week:**

  • 1. [Tim Rogers](https://twitter.com/108) asks: Did you all see there’s Funko Pop NFTs? (03:38)
  • 2. What’s the best online multiplayer experience you’ve had in a video game? (11:35)
  • 3. Design some demons for the next Shin Megami Tensei, and detail the negotiation options (16:27)
  • 4. Let’s talk about flavor text in games (21:25)
  • 5. Improv Zone: Fortnite Streaming (28:02)
  • 6. An anonymous dirtbag asks: Can a relationship in a video game constitute emotional infidelity? (32:47)
  • 7. What is the right amount of enemies to put in a level? (40:02)
  • 8. Make a workout mixtape entirely from video game music (44:51)
  • 9. What is the live action Cowboy Bebop of video games? (50:11)
  • **LIGHTNING ROUND**: The Gamer’s Journey (55:35)

    Recommendations and Outro (01:04:26)

    **A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:**

  • - [Funko NFTs](https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/23/22798955/funko-digital-pop-star-trek-nfts-why)
  • - [Dynasty Warriors](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dynasty-warriors-series)
  • - [That Dragon Quest one](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dragon-quest-heroes-series)
  • - [Tom Morello's NFTs based on his D&D character apparently](https://twitter.com/tmorello/status/1438662192996524037?s=20)
  • - [Bomberman Wars](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/bomberman-wars)
  • - [Tengai Makyō II: Manjimaru](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tengai-maky-ii-manjimaru_)
  • - [Tengai Makyō Ziria: Haruka Naru Jipang](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/tengai-maky-ziria-haruka-naru-jipang) ([Xbox 360](https://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/xbox360/))
  • - [SDCC 2014 Exclusive Sharknado Funko Pop](https://news.toyark.com/2014/07/15/funko-sdcc-thundercats-game-thrones-sharknado-128780)
  • - [Metal Gear Solid Man Solid Snake](https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Solid_Snake)
  • - [Gaiares](https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/gaiares)
  • - [Demons of Asteborg](https://www.mobygames.com/game/demons-of-asteborg)
  • - [Castlemania](https://castlemaniagames.com/)
  • - [Left 4 Dead](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/left-4-dead-series)
  • - [Mario Kart DS](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mario-kart-ds)
  • - [Halo 3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/halo-3_)
  • - [Gears of War](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/gears-of-war-series)
  • - [Earth Defense Force 2: Invaders from Planet Space](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps-vita/earth-defense-force-2-invaders-from-planet-space) ([PS Vita](https://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/ps-vita/))
  • - [Second Life](https://www.mobygames.com/game/second-life)
  • - [Shin Megami Tensei V](https://www.mobygames.com/game/switch/shin-megami-tensei-v)
  • - [Animal Crossing: New Horizons](https://www.mobygames.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons)
  • - [Isabelle](https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/Isabelle)
  • - [Jack Frost](https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_Frost)
  • - [Tom Nook](https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/Tom_Nook)
  • - [Bloodborne Protagonist](https://bloodborne.fandom.com/wiki/The_Hunter)
  • - [Espio the Chameleon](https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Espio_the_Chameleon)
  • - [Rouge the Bat](https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Rouge_the_Bat)
  • - [Moon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/moon) ([Nintendo DS](https://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/nintendo-ds/))
  • - [Pokémon Moon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/3ds/pokmon-moon)
  • - [Moon: Remix RPG Adventure](https://www.mobygames.com/game/moon-remix-rpg-adventure)
  • - [Moon (2009)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/)
  • - [Mute (2018)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1464763/)
  • - [Ridiculous Fishing](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ridiculous-fishing)
  • - [Donut County](https://www.mobygames.com/game/donut-county)
  • - [Katamari Damacy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/katamari-damacy)
  • - [SNK 40th Anniversary Collection](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snk-40th-anniversary-collection)
  • - [Samurai Shodown NeoGeo Collection](https://www.mobygames.com/game/samurai-shodown-neogeo-collection)
  • - [Street Fighter: 30th Anniversary Collection](https://www.mobygames.com/game/street-fighter-30th-anniversary-collection)
  • - [Mega Man: Legacy Collection](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mega-man-legacy-collection)
  • - [The Disney Afternoon Collection](https://www.mobygames.com/game/disney-afternoon-collection)
  • - [Fortnite: Battle Royale](https://www.mobygames.com/game/fortnite-battle-royale)
  • - [Edmond Honda](https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/E._Honda)
  • - [Dead Rising](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dead-rising)
  • - [Bionic Commando](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/bionic-commando-series)
  • - [PocketStation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PocketStation)
  • - [Tokimeki Memorial 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tokimeki-memorial-2)
  • - [Final Fantasy Tactics](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-tactics)
  • - [Final Fantasy Tactics Advance](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-tactics-advance)
  • - [Tactics Ogre](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tactics-ogre-)
  • - [Super Mario Galaxy Ice Flower Music For One Hour](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwe8Vg7CwU)
  • - [Queen of the Passion (Extended)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7GJp23bQK8)
  • - [Sewer Surfin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B-am3t1Qek)
  • - [Batman: Return of the Joker boss theme](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlaUzjpBeAA)
  • - [Final Fantasy IV town music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeTLfDigZxs)
  • - [Three Houses name entry music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRUfe8i4jGE)
  • - [Stage 1 Xeno Crisis theme](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFng5qjbVVc)
  • - [some Wangan Midnight Yuzo Koshiro music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CW7Ysr2KVg)
  • - [Bubsy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bubsy-paws-on-fire)
  • - [The Godfather: The Game](https://www.mobygames.com/game/godfather-the-game)
  • - [Reservoir Dogs](https://www.mobygames.com/game/reservoir-dogs)
  • - [Sonic the Hedgehog 4](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i)
  • - [Shadow of the Beast](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation-4/shadow-of-the-beast_)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **Brandon:** Don't interact with things you think are just going to upset you, [Sabaithong Powpuri](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvver9FUP1g)
    **Frank**: Use The Final Countdown in commercials and media, [The Video Game History Hour](https://gamehistory.org/the-video-game-history-hour/)
    **Tim**: Don't ask Hollywood directors if they want to make superhero movies, [That New Paul Thomas Anderson Movie](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11271038/)

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  • 6. An anonymous dirtbag asks: Can a relationship in a video game constitute emotional infidelity? (32:47)
  • I had a boyfriend back in highschool who wasn’t into video games. I didn’t talk about video games with him because I knew he wasn’t interested in them but one day I decided to tell him about a mobile game I had just started playing called [Bury Me, My Love ](https://burymemylove.arte.tv/)because I thought it was really good and I suspected he may find it thematically and conceptually interesting.

    Bury Me, My Love is a game about a woman called Nour who decides to flee from Syria, you play as the husband of said woman who stays in Syria because he doesn’t want to leave his mother behind, thus the whole game is presented/played in a WhatsApp like interface and you respond to text messages from your wife, offering her emotional support and advice through a series of dialogue choices.

    What makes this game special is that in the default mode you can’t decide when to play it, the game is played out in real time and it sends you a notification each time Nour makes some progress in her journey, upon seeing the notification you open the game, you talk with her for a couple of minutes and then she goes away and you can’t respond anymore. So if at some point in the story she loses access to her phone or she doesn’t have cell phone reception you may not hear from her in an irl day.

    When I told my then-boyfriend about the game he jokingly said: “Oh, so I will have to compete with your Syrian wife now?” I laughed and didn’t think much about it. The day after that, he watched me playing the game for a couple of minutes while in class and I didn’t mention the game after that. Later that week whenever he noticed I got a notification on my phone he would “jokingly” ask: “Is that your wife?” At that time I still thought he was joking and laughed.

    A couple of days later I didn’t respond to a text message he had sent me until a couple of hours later because I was at band practice, and when I texted him back he told me: “Were you too busy talking with your wife?”.
    At that point I noticed there was something going on ( I’m slow and not very good at knowing what other people are feeling) and asked him if it bothered him that I was playing that game, he said that it bothered him a little bit but he didn’t know why and then he got very defensive. We didn’t talk about the game after that.

    Two weeks later out of nowhere he asked me: “So, how did that game you were playing end?” I told him that I got a bad ending and >!that Nour had died while attempting to cross the Evros river.!<
    He said: “Good”.

    He never accused me of “emotional infidelity” but he definitely had some strange form of jealousy over me playing that game.

    In a way, what Tim was saying about how a Tokimeki Memorial game that actually texts you is the next step towards a game constituting emotional infidelity really happened to me, because I don't think my ex would had gotten any jealousy-like feelings if Bury Me, My Love hadn't texted me at any time of the day.
    People (especially teenagers!) often talk about having crushes on literary characters and (at least from what I tell) I don't think a lot of people get mad about that or perceive it as something that falls outside a monogamous relationship but when fiction begins to actively demand your attention stuff gets complicated!

    Anyway, Bury Me, My Love is very good and y’all should check it out. It is also available on the switch and steam but I think the mobile version is the best one because of the real-time mode (and because the game interface is literally a phone) (although it can also be experienced at any pace when you deactivate the real time mode).

    i like subnautica‘s flavor text. while it’s used to assign you new objectives and such, the game has the sense to write the characters so they talk like normal people in their distress calls, and then your AI companion will “analyze” the signal and find out the origin point so that you can go explore it. i think the game almost completely avoids the “hope nobody finds the key i hid in me safe” stuff. perhaps not coincidentally this game had a dedicated writer vs. someone on the dev team who also did that

    also star ocean the second story has good flavor text. some item descriptions are written in first person (??). so much of my favorite flavor text is from like prior to 2000 and seems to have been the product of inexperienced/overworked translators. obviously we've moved beyond that and for good reason but a little sad we'll never get it back

    also shoutout to katamari, the english writing in that game is incredible seriously

    @“穴”#p49533 I will second Bury Me, My Love. Strangely I played it at the start of the first lockdown period and it was perhaps a more emotive experience for that reason given that the world was essentially isolating from itself. I did play it on Switch though and I do think that it loses something without real time but it's a solid experience nonetheless.

    On the topic of Funkopops I too have one that was gifted to me, of Borderlands' Claptrap. Thankfully it's both half the size of regular Funkopops and isn't chibified so it actually is looks like the character, and I immediately got rid of the box. My housemate on the other hand has about two dozen of them boxed on display on a bookshelf and they're frankly the most hideous collection of items that you could choose to put on display, and they take up way more space than anything else that grown people want to display.

    I gotta say I extremely relate to Brandon‘s sentiment, there is nothing as charming as that specific brand of dog’s confusion and the dumb solutions they come around. Even though it's indeed not a great time for them!

    Regarding funkopops I was just THIS close to buying one earlier this year. The story is that for the longest time I've been looking for ANY piece of merchandise available here of Hunter x Hunter, which is my favorite battle manga of all time (which contains a surprisingly low amount of battles for those of you who don't know).

    For the thousand time I asked at my local comic shop and only then I was told there was one funko available of HxH. I preordered it and THEN I didn't buy it because I decided the joy of owning a HxH figure would be ruined by the circumstance of it being a funkopop. Even if it was one of Hisoka, who is probably my favorite manga character of all time (from my favorite battle manga)!

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    I don't know if it was the editing or if it really happened this way but I loved how Tim immediately knew that he had to be the twitch streamer in the improv zone

    @“穴”#p49551 That happened in real time, I can attest. He just jumped in there right away.

    I also want to add that even though I've loved the recent rotation of guests, I too am thankful for the boys being back in the same room again.

    I‘m playing Nier Replicant (no spoilers please) and the flavor text for the weapons as you upgrade them is pretty heckin’ wild I gotta say.

    @“Jaffe”#p49554 @“穴”#p49551 You know when in a Shonen manga there is this character that is just a natural fighter and understands everything instinctively? Tim's streamer instincts are just that powerful.

    Oh and by the way, yeah, I totally agree on dropping the one day early nonsense. In fact, let's not have a one day early of podcast and give that extra day to @espercontrol to rest!

    On the topic of watching movies on phones (1:10:59), Pedro Costa has said in a recent masterclass that “Bresson is very good in an iPhone.”

    I've never tried it, but it must be nice!

    Make a workout mixtape entirely from video game music

  • - Simon's Quest (NES) Music - Castle Theme 01 Dwellings of Doom
  • - Contra (NES) - Alien's Lair & Boss Music
  • - Solstice Music (NES) - Title Screen Theme
  • - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time (SNES) - Sewer Surfin (Brandon Mentioned this one)
  • - Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie (SNES) - Moonlight
  • - Final Fantasy 5 - Battle With Gilgamesh
  • - Elemental Master - Dance of Flame
  • i am running out! this could be it's own thread

    edit: whoever wrote the item descriptions in Disgaea games had a good time. IIRC the Common Bow's description was something like "Looks like it was made in an arts and crafts class"

    No sure where the line between “flavor text ” and “Hey, you got short story in my video game!” is, but Metal Gear Solid 2‘s in-universe recaps of Metal Gear Solid 1 spring to mind. Particularly, the farcical book you must finish before getting the final, comprehensive recap written from another character’s first-person perspective.

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    amazon link so you know im not making this shit up:

    https://www.amazon.com/Funko-Television-Palmer-Plastic-Action/dp/B01N10MHOI


    Funko Pop was the only way for me to obtain a Guy Fieri action figure, and I don't regret it.

    I don't know if I could work out to this, but I could fortify the homestead with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHEi7TD2b8

    @“dicegame”#p49565 that is horrifying

    Have not yet finished the episode, but I just really wanna shout out Esper's use of their signature Klonoa Wahoo when Brandon mentioned Esperanto. The both of yaz got guffaws out of me.

    Credit where credit is due, that particular wahoo was jaffe‘s idea! Though esper may also have come up with it on their own if jaffe hadn’t mentioned it, possibly.