Ep. 213 - The Gumption of My Own Horse

### Ep. 213 - The Gumption of My Own Horse

In which our heroes consider for whom the Hey Guys tolls, deliberate Superman questions, and witness the birth of Peggle exercise. Edited by Esper Quinn, original music by Kurt Feldman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARjXakN18o

**Questions this week:**

  • 1. [Frank Cifaldi](https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi) asks: Do you remember seeing Super Mario 64 for the first time? (06:35)
  • 2. Which are better, ranged or melee weapons? (13:05)
  • 3. What are some video game resources more people should know about? (18:13)
  • 4. What’s the stupidest way you’ve ever died in a video game? (26:09)
  • 5. What’s the difference between a Bizarro and a Wario? (31:12)
  • 6. Dirtbag Gachaman asks: What is the best single button press in video games? (38:28)
  • 7. Review Sonic the Hedgehog 2 in six minutes. (45:50)
  • 8. Violence Island (51:47)
  • 9. What’s the Coronavirus booster shot of video games? (01:04:49)
  • **LIGHTNING ROUND**: Trophy Life (1:10:32)

    Recommendations and Outro (01:19:16)

    **A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:**

  • - [Tim's Minnesota mansion](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/116-22nd-St-E-Minneapolis-MN-55404/2009400_zpid/)
  • - [Super Mario 64](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-64)
  • - [NiGHTS into Dreams...](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/nights-into-dreams)
  • - [Super Mario Odyssey](https://www.mobygames.com/game/switch/super-mario-odyssey)
  • - [Power Blade](https://www.mobygames.com/game/power-blade)
  • - [Chrontendo ep. 59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkVAmW3SLiY)
  • - [Cross Wiber: Cyber-Combat-Police](https://www.mobygames.com/game/turbo-grafx/cross-wiber-cyber-combat-police)
  • - [Castlevania: The Adventure - ReBirth](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/castlevania-the-adventure-rebirth)
  • - [Metal Slug](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/metal-slug-series)
  • - [Super Mario 3D World](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii-u/super-mario-3d-world)
  • - [Dynasty Warriors](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dynasty-warriors-series)
  • - [God Hand](https://www.mobygames.com/game/god-hand)
  • - [Fortnite](https://www.mobygames.com/game/fortnite-battle-royale)
  • - [GameFly](https://www.gamefly.com/)
  • - [Replay Burners](https://www.youtube.com/user/ReplayBurners)
  • - [1984 [60fps] Wai Wai Jockey Gate-In! Loop1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsWXIPkYqU) on Replay Burners
  • - [GDC's youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/c/Gdconf)
  • - [GDC Vault](https://gdcvault.com/)
  • - [MobyGames](https://www.mobygames.com/)
  • - [1990 [60fps] Cyber-Lip Hardest ALL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoXIWxwvxVQ) on Replay Burners
  • - [World of Longplays](https://longplays.org/home.php)
  • - [The Internet Archive](https://archive.org/) (search for "redump" and "no-intro")
  • - [Cyberpunk 2077](https://www.mobygames.com/game/cyberpunk-2077)
  • - [Red Dead Redemption II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/red-dead-redemption-ii)
  • - [Shin Megami Tensei IV](https://www.mobygames.com/game/3ds/shin-megami-tensei-iv)
  • - [Bizarro](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Bizarro)
  • - [Wario](https://www.mariowiki.com/Wario)
  • - [Cyborg Superman](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Hank_Henshaw)
  • - [Steel](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Steel)
  • - [Superboy](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kon-El)
  • - [Eradicator](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Eradicator_(New_Earth))
  • - [A Soul Calibur Final Boss](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Doomsday)
  • - [John Carter](https://barsoom.fandom.com/wiki/John_Carter)
  • - [General Zod](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/General_Zod)
  • - [Injustice: Gods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injustice%3A_Gods_Among_Us) [Among Us](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Among_Us)
  • - [Shigeru Miyamoto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigeru_Miyamoto)
  • - [Ninja Gaiden](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ninja-gaiden____)
  • - [Filco Majestouch 2](https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1819) (Esper prefers Cherry Blue switches)
  • - [Terminator 2 pinball machine](https://ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2524)
  • - [X-Men](https://www.mobygames.com/game/x-men___)
  • - [Golden Axe](https://www.mobygames.com/game/golden-axe)
  • - [Peggle](https://www.mobygames.com/game/peggle)
  • - [Donpachi series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/donpachi-series)
  • - [R-Type Final](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/r-type-final)
  • - [Super Mario Bros. 3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-bros-3)
  • - [Half A-Presses](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A)
  • - [Deadly Premonition](https://www.mobygames.com/game/deadly-premonition)
  • - [Sonic the Hedgehog 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-the-hedgehog-2)
  • - [Chemical Plant Zone music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYB7iLZNWE)
  • - [Cacodemon](https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Cacodemon)
  • - [Pac-Man](https://pacman.fandom.com/wiki/Pac-Man)
  • - [DOOM Eternal](https://www.mobygames.com/game/doom-eternal)
  • - [Takahashi Meijin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takahashi_Meijin)
  • - [Billy Mitchell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Mitchell_(gamer))
  • - [Shinya Arino](https://www.giantbomb.com/shinya-arino/3040-92110/)
  • - [Diddy Kong](https://donkeykong.fandom.com/wiki/Diddy_Kong)
  • - [AiAi](https://supermonkeyball.fandom.com/wiki/AiAi)
  • - [Turok 2: Seeds of Evil](https://www.mobygames.com/game/turok-2-seeds-of-evil)
  • - [Hybrid Heaven](https://www.mobygames.com/game/n64/hybrid-heaven)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **Brandon:** [Regency Solitaire](https://www.mobygames.com/game/regency-solitaire), [Cruis'n Blast](https://www.mobygames.com/game/cruisn-blast)
    **Frank**: [The Fraction/Aja run of Hawkeye that the show is based on](https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/16309/hawkeye_2012_-_2015?byZone=marvel_site_zone&offset=0&byType=comic_series&dateStart=&dateEnd=&orderBy=release_date+desc&byId=16309&limit=18&count=20&totalcount=22)
    **Tim**: [Action Button Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/actionbutton)
    **Jaffe**: [Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - Stone Ocean](https://www.netflix.com/title/80179831)

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    @“esper”#p50376 What’s the stupidest way you’ve ever died in a video game? (26:09)

    Probably falling for that Goblin palette swap enemy on the moon in Final Fantasy IV. The one that goes "Scan me!" so you'll see that he's weak against Thunder, and then when you use it he absorbs it and counters with an incredibly powerful lightning spell. To be clear, I KNEW he was bullshitting me, I was doing it just because I was curious what would happen. How was I to know it would wipe my party!

    >

    @“esper”#p50376 Dirtbag Gachaman asks: What is the best single button press in video games? (38:28)

    For my money it's successfully parrying in the Souls games. It's a very tight window and it's totally possible to fuck it up even if you've done in a million times, but when you get it right, you just KNOW, even the split second before you hear that "DUUNNNN" sound and you get to follow up with that satisfying riposte

    Also, I think it's been depicted a couple different ways in comics and other media, but I could swear there's one explanation for Superman's haircuts where he reflects his heat vision off of a reflective piece of the rocket he came to Earth in, because everything from Krypton is indestructible. Pretty sure it was just a regular bathroom mirror when he did it in Superman The Animated Series, though

    >

    @“esper”#p50376 best single button press

    this is a hyper-normal answer, but I always like the button press when intercepting a pass via manual control in madden. The player-controlled receiver/cornerback controls never really worked to well, but getting the timing right and picking off a pass was always real satisfying. Not only in and of itself, but probably because it was literally the only button press that worked correctly in the aspect of the game

    I said this on Patreon but Cruis‘n Blast was undersold! It’s big, dumb and a 6/10 (possibly even a coveted 7 for me). The environments are absolutely wild too; one track involves you driving through the streets of London whilst the London Eye ferris wheel has detached and is causing havoc, and at one point you‘re driving on top of moving train carriages. Other environments include driving under a giant gorilla, driving through a disaster environment as the earth literally breaks up from an earthquake in front of your eyes, and wow there’s too many to mention.

    Handling is tight as heck and you can effectively drift in a straight line. As Tim (I think) posited there's a wheelie button that let's you also barrel roll, or spin or corner on two side wheels depending on the context, and with certain timing you can finish races upside down, pointing up, down, or any which way.

    It is, a blast.

    @“dry cleaner for dogs”#p50386

    Also feels pretty good when you see your receiver beat a db at the line and just feather the button to lob it over the defense.

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    Finally the Midwest gets some love for a moment.

    I feel like y'all secretly want to move here if only for the spacious basements.

    I didn’t realize Regency Solitaire had come out on the Switch!!! I’ve been wanting to play that for forever but didn’t want to sit at my PC to do it. This rocks. Austen games is a barren genre.

    @“LeFish”#p50388 tim asked if you could do a side wheelie - as always I was unclear whether he knew or was just looking up a video while I was talking!!

    The environments are Very Good and has the traditional dinosaurs snapping at you, etc, all the good stuff.

    @"captain"#p50405 oh man, yeah, press F to salute or whatever would've been a good answer. jeez

    @"DavidNoo"#p50407 I can't live in not-california I don't think, but tim knows all about that middle west, on account of he's from it!

    @"sabertoothalex"#p50409 yeahhhh it's on there! I've beaten it once already, now I'm doing it on hard.

    @“exodus”#p50410 Ah yeah, I couldn‘t remember the exact wording of the question, you’re right! I get the impression that Tim in particular would have a great time with this - seems like his kind of fun time.

    Love the Sonic 2 review pls keep this segment @Jaffe

    I‘ll tweet this at Tim later, I guess, but a word on Replay Burners: that channel is monetising a ton of replays created by enthusiast communities who aren’t receiving any of the money and in many cases aren‘t even made aware that their replays are being exploited, and they haven’t been especially cooperative about requests to remove particular videos.

    RE: World of Longplays specifically, those games aren't necessarily being played by people who know them back to front or whatever; a ton of them are very blatantly cheated, but I suppose if your investment in a particular game begins and ends at its value as digital wallpaper, it doesn't really matter.

    the first time i saw mario64, i was sat on my living room floor mashing the d-pad and buttons, trying to make mario move. that‘s how he moves on the game boy! i watched him sit down, declare "i’m-a tired!" and fall asleep until something, either checking the manual or a suggestion from my dad, prompted me to get that boy moving.

    my favourite story about _a_ mario64 first was from ic guest [heather anne campbell ](https://www.earwolf.com/episode/super-mayrio-super-mario-64/) on hdtgp pod. it made me feel real things in a supermarket!

    i still love mario64, though it has been superseded by odyssey **and** bowser's fury. it's a little bit too much mario world or mario land 2 (especially in the later third) and not enough mario 3 maybe.

    Just jumping in, as I do every time Tim Rogers badmouths Pac-Man Championship Edition 2, to say that he is wrong.

    >

    What is the best single button press in video games?

    It's all about the parries, baby.

    This is what instantly came to mind because generally speaking there isn't an action in a videogame that feels better to me than landing a very timing-dependant high risk and high reward move that completely negates what the enemy was doing and also opens a window for you to lash out.

    There are parries and counters for every taste in videogames, and a good amount of them are exactly one very well timed button press. My favorite type of counter/parry are the ones that instead of having a dedicated button, are recontextualized button presses. That is to say, a button that generally speaking is dedicated to a different action, but becomes the counterattack button in certain very specific contexts. The most famous parry of them all, the Street Fighter 3 one, does exactly this by turning the button you use to move towards the enemy into the counter button. It's a genius decision design-wise because moving towards your enemy is something you want to do very carefully due to it being a very punishable action in the game, but it's also brilliant because the parry button is exactly the opposite to your general defense button, which is pushing backwards to defend and cover from enemy attacks.

    The counter/parry in the first Bayonetta, enabled by obtaining the Moon of Mahaa-Kalaa (in game item) works very similarly to SF3's parry, but translated to 3D movement. It performs amazingly well, and it's the main reason Bayonetta is one of my favourite action games ever, even while I generally don't like the weapons or movesets in the game (they leaned too hard onto the stripper/dancing thing imo).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRyGPN5Empc

    One of my favorites in recent times came with Sekiro, the Mikiri Counter. A move that allows you to deflect incoming piercing attacks by decisively stepping on the enemy's weapon to leave them open. It is performed by dashing towards the enemy, something very risky you never want to do by mistake, but that transforms into one of the most powerful moves in the game if timed correctly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgRMhvLvCA8

    Dariusburst is a game with a ZUNTATA soundtrack which allows you to counter the most powerful attack of every boss with a dedicated button press, need I say more?

    https://youtu.be/RX_hMLFFKSU?t=52

    Yakuza also has a phenomenal counter move, the Komaki Tiger Drop. A very sudden and well choreographed punch to the chest that sends your opponents flying.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q8LEy6fPoI

    Speaking of Yakuza, mashing that triangle button with your heat bar fully loaded onto a domestic abuser or some random dude who was about to hit a kid or something, that's a good button press right there as well!

    I like pushing the eject button in Steel Battalion to avoid perma death just like in real life.

    the button that sends snes carts skyward is a good one to press

    cool resources:

    vgmrips.net is a good resource for video game music (it‘s how I’ve learnt a fifth of my video game knowledge)

    the ‘roms megathread’ is a good hub for finding the rom you want

    I mean, the internet archive was mentioned, but not this specifically: you can play arcade and console games in your browser there

    my best video game death is, when at a friends house, he convinced me to play halo (2? 4? it was for the 360), and after getting the rocket launcher, I shot it at the ground and killed myself. i dunno, it was pretty funny in the moment

    @“gsk”#p50434 OH, that‘s too bad about replay burners, I’ll have to look into it and maybe make a correction. I don‘t mind cheating in a longplay though - it still tells me how to beat sections of demolition man for sega cd or whatever, the cheats aren’t impossible.

    @JoJoestar I thought about parries but I've never felt one that really satisfied me - the SF3 one did come to mind though! dariusburst on the other hand... I could maybe get behind that.

    @rootfifthoctave yeahhhhh, I love a launch/eject button, good one.