Ep. 219 - The Insert Credit Consolebration

### Ep. 219 - The Insert Credit Consolebration

You've waited long enough, now Insert Credit ranks the greatest video game consoles of all time, and a few others for good measure. Hosted by Alex Jaffe, with Frank Cifaldi, Tim Rogers, and Brandon Sheffield. Edited by Esper Quinn, original music by Kurt Feldman.

**Choices:**

  • - -Round 1, Frank (05:25)
  • - -Round 1, Tim (09:25)
  • - -Round 1, Brandon (15:35)
  • - -Round 2, Frank (19:36)
  • - -Round 2, Tim (24:49)
  • - -Round 2, Brandon (30:15)
  • - -Round 3, Frank (35:46)
  • - -Round 3, Tim (41:40)
  • - -Round 3, Brandon (50:30)
  • - -Round 4, Frank (56:51)
  • - -Round 4, Tim (01:04:52)
  • - -Round 4, Brandon (01:10:57)
  • - -Round 5, Frank (01:19:10)
  • - -Round 5, Tim (01:24:25)
  • - -Round 5, Brandon (01:31:25)
  • - -Round 6, Frank (01:38:07)
  • - -Round 6, Brandon (01:44:23)
  • - -Round 6, Tim (01:52:14)
  • - -Round 7, Frank (02:00:05)
  • - -Round 7, Tim (02:07:00)
  • - -Round 7, Brandon (02:14:28)
  • Recommendations and Outro (02:25:09)

    **THE INSERT CREDIT RANKED TOP 20 CONSOLES:**
    >!1. PlayStation!<
    >!2. PS2!<
    >!3. SNES!<
    >!4. Genesis!<
    >!5. Xbox 360!<
    >!6. Nintendo DS!<
    >!7. PC Engine!<
    >!8. NES!<
    >!9. Dreamcast!<
    >!10. Saturn!<
    >!11. Windows PC!<
    >!12. PSP!<
    >!13. Game Boy Advance!<
    >!14. Game Boy!<
    >!15. Wii!<
    >!16. WonderSwan!<
    >!17. Switch!<
    >!18. ZX Spectrum!<
    >!19. Neo Geo Pocket Color!<
    >!20. Jaguar!<
    >!21. Atari 2600!<

    (post hit character limit: see next post in thread for A LARGE SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED)

    **Recommendations:**
    **Tim**: Get in touch with [Christa Lee](https://twitter.com/ohpoorpup) at [Sound Retro Co.](https://soundretro.co/) for all your console repair and upgrade needs, [MiSTerAddons.com](https://misteraddons.com/) (i checked, they’re sold out of MiSTers at time of publishing)
    **Frank**: Get in touch with [Christa Lee](https://twitter.com/ohpoorpup) at [Sound Retro Co.](https://soundretro.co/) for all your console repair and upgrade needs, use Dolphin for Wii and GameCube emulation
    **Brandon:** Try playing old games on Composite cables

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    A LARGE SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:

  • - Playstation
  • - [Super Nintendo Entertainment System](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System)
  • - [FM Towns Marty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_Towns_Marty)
  • - [WonderSwan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WonderSwan)
  • - [TurboGrafx-16](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboGrafx-16)
  • - [Microsoft Windows](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows)
  • - [Quake](https://www.mobygames.com/game/quake_)
  • - [Unreal Tournament](https://www.mobygames.com/game/unreal-tournament)
  • - [Super Mario 64](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-64)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time](https://www.mobygames.com/game/legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild](https://www.mobygames.com/game/legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild)
  • - [ZX Spectrum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum)
  • - [G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/gi-joe-a-real-american-hero_)
  • - [Code Name: Viper](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/code-name-viper)
  • - [Batman: The Video Game](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/batman-the-video-game_)
  • - [Vice: Project Doom](https://www.mobygames.com/game/vice-project-doom)
  • - [Journey to Silius](https://www.mobygames.com/game/journey-to-silius)
  • - [Total Recall](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/total-recall__)
  • - [Friday the 13th](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/friday-the-13th)
  • - [Kick Master](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/kick-master)
  • - [Demon Sword](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/demon-sword)
  • - [Strider](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/strider_)
  • - [Sega Genesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Genesis)
  • - [Power Blade](https://www.mobygames.com/game/power-blade)
  • - [Power Blade 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/power-blade-2)
  • - [Super Mario Bros.](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-bros)
  • - [Mega Man](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mega-man-)
  • - [Dragon Warrior](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dragon-warrior)
  • - [Final Fantasy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy)
  • - [Metroid](https://www.mobygames.com/game/metroid)
  • - [ACTION BUTTON REVIEWS DOOM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38zduHkwGcc)
  • - [ACTION BUTTON REVIEWS PAC-MAN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPzVlTgZoCg)
  • - [Pac-Man (Atari 2600)](https://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-2600/pac-man)
  • - [Little Samson](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/little-samson)
  • - [Shatterhand](https://www.mobygames.com/game/shatterhand)
  • - [Low G Man](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/low-g-man)
  • - [The Mafat Conspiracy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/mafat-conspiracy)
  • - [Golgo 13: Top Secret Episode](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/golgo-13-top-secret-episode)
  • - [Clash at Demonhead](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/clash-at-demonhead)
  • - [Ufouria: The Saga](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ufouria-the-saga)
  • - [Neo Geo Pocket Color](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo_Pocket_Color)
  • - [Metal Slug 1st Mission](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neo-geo-pocket-color/metal-slug-1st-mission)
  • - [SNK vs. Capcom: The Match of the Millennium](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snk-vs-capcom-the-match-of-the-millennium)
  • - [SNK vs Capcom: Cardfighters' Clash 2 - Expanded Edition](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neo-geo-pocket-color/snk-vs-capcom-cardfighters-clash-2-expanded-edition)
  • - [Sonic The Hedgehog Pocket Adventure](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neo-geo-pocket-color/sonic-the-hedgehog-pocket-adventure)
  • - [Biomotor Unitron](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neo-geo-pocket-color/biomotor-unitron)
  • - [King of Fighters: Battle de Paradise](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neo-geo-pocket-color/king-of-fighters-battle-de-paradise)
  • - [King of Fighters R-1](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neo-geo-pocket/king-of-fighters-r-1)
  • - [King of Fighters R-2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/king-of-fighters-r-2)
  • - [SNK Gals' Fighters](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snk-gals-fighters)
  • - [Atari 800](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family#400/800_release)
  • - [Commodore 64](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64)
  • - [Aliens: Neoplasma](https://zxonline.net/game/alien-game/)
  • - [Nintendo DS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS)
  • - [The Saga Of The Ultra-Rare McDonald's DS Game Comes To An End After 11 Long Years](https://kotaku.com/we-can-all-finally-learn-how-to-make-big-macs-on-ninten-1848347540)
  • - [Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/flash-focus-vision-training-in-minutes-a-day)
  • - [Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!](https://www.mobygames.com/game/brain-age-train-your-brain-in-minutes-a-day)
  • - [Imagine: Party Planner](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/imagine-party-planner)
  • - [Cooking Mama series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/cooking-mama-series)
  • - [Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/dragon-quest-v-hand-of-the-heavenly-bride)
  • - [Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/dragon-quest-iv-chapters-of-the-chosen)
  • - [Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/dragon-quest-vi-realms-of-revelation)
  • - [Sands of Destruction](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/sands-of-destruction)
  • - [Master of the Monster Lair](https://www.mobygames.com/game/master-of-the-monster-lair)
  • - [Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/shin-megami-tensei-devil-survivor-2)
  • - [Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/shin-megami-tensei-strange-journey)
  • - [Etrian Odyssey](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/etrian-odyssey)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/legend-of-zelda-spirit-tracks)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/legend-of-zelda-phantom-hourglass)
  • - [PlayStation Portable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable)
  • - [Brave Story: New Traveler](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/brave-story-new-traveler)
  • - [Jeanne d'Arc](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/jeanne-darc)
  • - [Kingdom of Paradise](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/kingdom-of-paradise)
  • - [Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/monster-kingdom-jewel-summoner-)
  • - [Dungeon Maker: Hunting Ground](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/dungeon-maker-hunting-ground)
  • - [Dungeon Maker II: The Hidden War](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dungeon-maker-ii-the-hidden-war)
  • - [Rengoku: The Tower of Purgatory](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/rengoku-the-tower-of-purgatory)
  • - [Rengoku II: Stairway to H.E.A.V.E.N.](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/rengoku-ii-stairway-to-heaven)
  • - [Monster Hunter: Freedom](https://www.mobygames.com/game/monster-hunter-freedom)
  • - [PlayStation Vita](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Vita)
  • - [Ridge Racer](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/ridge-racer_)
  • - [The Legend of Kage 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/legend-of-kage-2)
  • - [The Legend of Kage](https://www.mobygames.com/game/legend-of-kage)
  • - [PlayStation 2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2)
  • - [Grand Theft Auto series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/grand-theft-auto-series)
  • - [Metal Gear series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/metal-gear-series)
  • - [Sega Saturn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn)
  • - [Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits](https://www.mobygames.com/game/arc-the-lad-twilight-of-the-spirits)
  • - [Raw Danger!](https://www.mobygames.com/game/raw-danger)
  • - [Steambot Chronicles](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/steambot-chronicles)
  • - [Gradius V](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gradius-v)
  • - [Thunder Force VI](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/thunder-force-vi)
  • - [Contra: Shattered Soldier](https://www.mobygames.com/game/contra-shattered-soldier)
  • - [Neo Contra](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neo-contra)
  • - [Silent Hill 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/silent-hill-2)
  • - [Silent Hill 3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/silent-hill-3)
  • - [R-Type Final](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/r-type-final)
  • - [Drakengard](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/drakengard)
  • - [Drakengard 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/drakengard-2)
  • - [Tokimeki Memorial 3: Yakusoku no Ano Basho de](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/tokimeki-memorial-3-yakusoku-no-ano-basho-de)
  • - [Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4](https://www.mobygames.com/game/shin-megami-tensei-persona-4)
  • - [Ga-rou-den Breakblow](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/ga-rou-den-breakblow)
  • - [The King of Fighters 2006](https://www.mobygames.com/game/king-of-fighters-2006)
  • - [Berserk Millennium Falcon Arc: Seimasenki no Sho](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/berserk-millennium-falcon-arc-seimasenki-no-sho)
  • - [Grand Theft Auto III](https://www.mobygames.com/game/grand-theft-auto-iii)
  • - [Insert Credit PS2cular](https://insertcredit.com/show/136/)
  • - [Bujingai: The Forsaken City](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/bujingai-the-forsaken-city)
  • - [The Matrix: Path of Neo](https://www.mobygames.com/game/matrix-path-of-neo)
  • - [Jak II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jak-ii)
  • - [Dreamcast](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamcast)
  • - [Super Adventure Island](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-adventure-island)
  • - [Madden NFL '94](https://www.mobygames.com/game/madden-nfl-94)
  • - [Tokimeki Memorial: Densetsu no Ki no Shita de](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/tokimeki-memorial-densetsu-no-ki-no-shita-de)
  • - [Dragon Quest I & II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/dragon-quest-i-ii)
  • - [Dragon Warrior III](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/dragon-warrior-iii_)
  • - [Dragon Quest V: Tenkū no Hanayome](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/dragon-quest-v-tenk-no-hanayome)
  • - [Dragon Quest VI: Maboroshi no Daichi](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/dragon-quest-vi-maboroshi-no-daichi)
  • - [Chrono Trigger](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/chrono-trigger)
  • - [Final Fantasy IV](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/final-fantasy-ii_)
  • - [Final Fantasy V](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/final-fantasy-v)
  • - [Final Fantasy VI](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/final-fantasy-iii__)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past](https://www.mobygames.com/game/legend-of-zelda-a-link-to-the-past)
  • - [Psycho Dream](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psycho-dream)
  • - [Brain Lord](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/brain-lord)
  • - [Super Metroid](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-metroid)
  • - [Metroid Fusion](https://www.mobygames.com/game/metroid-fusion)
  • - [Metroid Dread](https://www.mobygames.com/game/metroid-dread)
  • - [Super Castlevania IV](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-castlevania-iv)
  • - [Mega Man 4](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mega-man-4)
  • - [Castlevania II: Simon's Quest](https://www.mobygames.com/game/castlevania-ii-simons-quest)
  • - [Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse](https://www.mobygames.com/game/castlevania-iii-draculas-curse-)
  • - [Super Bonk](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-bonk)
  • - [Wolverine: Adamantium Rage](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/wolverine-adamantium-rage)
  • - [Waterworld](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/waterworld__)
  • - [Insert Credit BSNESGOAT](https://insertcredit.com/show/63/)
  • - [Robotrek](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/robotrek)
  • - [ActRaiser 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/actraiser-2)
  • - [Angelique](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/angelique)
  • - [Hagane: The Final Conflict](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/hagane-the-final-conflict)
  • - [Ganbare Goemon series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/ganbare-goemon-series)
  • - [Game Boy Advance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance)
  • - [Game Gear - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Gear)
  • - [Neo Geo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo_(system))
  • - [Street Fighter series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/street-fighter-series)
  • - [Panzer Dragoon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/panzer-dragoon)
  • - [Panzer Dragoon Saga](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/panzer-dragoon-saga)
  • - [Panzer Dragoon II: Zwei](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/panzer-dragoon-ii-zwei)
  • - [Sonic R](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-r)
  • - [Pup Breeder](https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/saturn/574283-pup-breeder)
  • - [Dark Savior](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/dark-savior)
  • - [Steal Princess](https://www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/steal-princess)
  • - [Daytona USA](https://www.mobygames.com/game/daytona-usa_)
  • - [Shining Force III](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/shining-force-iii)
  • - [Shining Force III: Premium Disc](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/shining-force-iii-premium-disc)
  • - [NiGHTS into Dreams...](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-saturn/nights-into-dreams)
  • - [Neugier: Umi to Kaze no Kōdō](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/neugier-umi-to-kaze-no-kd)
  • A CONTINUED LARGE SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:


  • - Apple II
  • - [Number Munchers](https://www.mobygames.com/game/number-munchers)
  • - [Ranger X](https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/ranger-x)
  • - [Dune: The Battle for Arrakis](https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/dune-the-battle-for-arrakis)
  • - [Rings of Power](https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/rings-of-power)
  • - [Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday](https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/buck-rogers-countdown-to-doomsday_)
  • - [The Adventures of Batman & Robin](https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/adventures-of-batman-robin_)
  • - [Jon Burton’s video on The Adventures of Batman & Robin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0S92Fs5gOg)
  • - [Contra Hard Corps](https://www.mobygames.com/game/contra-hard-corps)
  • - [Castlevania: Bloodlines](https://www.mobygames.com/game/castlevania-bloodlines)
  • - [Sonic the Hedgehog](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-the-hedgehog)
  • - [Sonic the Hedgehog 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-the-hedgehog-2)
  • - [Sonic the Hedgehog 3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-the-hedgehog-3)
  • - [Sonic & Knuckles](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-knuckles)
  • - [Ristar](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ristar)
  • - [VectorMan](https://www.mobygames.com/game/vectorman)
  • - [Vectorman 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/vectorman-2)
  • - [Comix Zone](https://www.mobygames.com/game/comix-zone)
  • - [Phantasy Star II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/phantasy-star-ii)
  • - [Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom](https://www.mobygames.com/game/phantasy-star-iii-generations-of-doom)
  • - [Phantasy Star IV](https://www.mobygames.com/game/phantasy-star-iv)
  • - [Sword of Vermilion](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sword-of-vermilion)
  • - [Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master](https://www.mobygames.com/game/shinobi-iii-return-of-the-ninja-master)
  • - [Xeno Crisis](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xeno-crisis)
  • - [32X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32X)
  • - [Sega CD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_CD)
  • - [Sonic CD](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-cd_)
  • - [Lunar: The Silver Star](https://www.mobygames.com/game/lunar-the-silver-star)
  • - [Android Assault: The Revenge of Bari-Arm](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-cd/android-assault-the-revenge-of-bari-arm)
  • - [Shining Force series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/shining-force-series)
  • - [Sewer Shark](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sewer-shark)
  • - [Landstalker](https://www.mobygames.com/game/landstalker)
  • - [Sonic Adventure](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-adventure)
  • - [SoulCalibur](https://www.mobygames.com/game/soulcalibur)
  • - [Sword of the Berserk: Guts' Rage](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/sword-of-the-berserk-guts-rage)
  • - [Sengoku Turb](http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/sengoku-turb/)
  • - [Shenmue](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/shenmue)
  • - [Illbleed](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/illbleed)
  • - [Time Stalkers](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/time-stalkers)
  • - [Blue Stinger](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/blue-stinger)
  • - [NFL 2K](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/nfl-2k)
  • - [Capcom vs. SNK 2: Mark of the Millennium](https://www.mobygames.com/game/capcom-vs-snk-2-mark-of-the-millennium)
  • - [Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tony-hawks-pro-skater-2)
  • - [Bangai-O](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bangai-o)
  • - [Napple Tale: Arsia in Daydream](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/napple-tale-arsia-in-daydream)
  • - [Ikaruga](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ikaruga)
  • - [Skies of Arcadia](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/skies-of-arcadia)
  • - [Rez](https://www.mobygames.com/game/rez)
  • - [Sonic Adventure 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sonic-adventure-2)
  • - [Sonic Shuffle](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/sonic-shuffle)
  • - [VMU](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMU)
  • - [PocketStation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PocketStation)
  • - [Power Stone](https://www.mobygames.com/game/power-stone)
  • - [Phantasy Star Online](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/phantasy-star-online)
  • - [Castlevania: Rondo of Blood](https://www.mobygames.com/game/castlevania-rondo-of-blood)
  • - [Blazing Lazers](https://www.mobygames.com/game/blazing-lazers)
  • - [Super Star Soldier](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-star-soldier)
  • - [Ys: Book I & II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ys-book-i-ii)
  • - [Snatcher](https://www.mobygames.com/game/snatcher)
  • - [Tengai Makyō: Deden no Den](https://www.mobygames.com/game/turbografx-cd/tengai-maky-deden-no-den)
  • - [Tengai Makyō II: Manjimaru](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tengai-maky-ii-manjimaru)
  • - [Military Madness](https://www.mobygames.com/game/military-madness)
  • - [Neutopia](https://www.mobygames.com/game/neutopia)
  • - [Famicom Wars series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/famicom-wars-series)
  • - [Gauntlet series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/gauntlet-series)
  • - [Valis series](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/valis-series)
  • - [Linda³](https://www.mobygames.com/game/turbografx-cd/linda-)
  • - [Seiya Monogatari: Anearth Fantasy Stories](https://www.mobygames.com/game/turbografx-cd/seiya-monogatari-anearth-fantasy-stories)
  • - [Gate of Thunder](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gate-of-thunder)
  • - [Magical Chase](https://www.mobygames.com/game/magical-chase)
  • - [Victory Run](https://www.mobygames.com/game/victory-run)
  • - [Apple Pippin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pippin)
  • - [Analogue Pocket](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogue_Pocket)
  • - [MiSTer](https://www.polygon.com/22640171/mister-project-classic-gaming-retro-fpga-board-chip-io-explainer-usb-hub)
  • - [Atari 2600](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600)
  • - [H.E.R.O.](https://www.mobygames.com/game/hero)
  • - [Frostbite](https://www.mobygames.com/game/frostbite)
  • - [Yars' Revenge](https://www.mobygames.com/game/yars-revenge)
  • - [Intellivision](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellivision)
  • - [Thundercade](https://www.mobygames.com/game/thundercade)
  • - [Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back](https://www.mobygames.com/game/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back_)
  • - [Defender](https://www.mobygames.com/game/defender)
  • - [DOOM](https://www.mobygames.com/game/doom)
  • - [Xbox 360](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360)
  • - [Insert Credit Top 20 XBox 36Tacular, with Kris Graft and Mathew Kumar](https://insertcredit.com/show/178/)
  • - [Tengai Makyō III: Namida](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/tengai-maky-iii-namida)
  • - [Gears of War](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/gears-of-war_)
  • - [Gears of War 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gears-of-war-2)
  • - [Gears of War 3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gears-of-war-3)
  • - [Xbox Series X and Series S](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Series_X_and_Series_S)
  • - [Xbox One](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_One)
  • - [Forza Horizon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/forza-horizon)
  • - [Pac-Man: Championship Edition](https://www.mobygames.com/game/pac-man-championship-edition)
  • - [Alan Wake](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/alan-wake__)
  • - [Shadowrun](https://www.mobygames.com/game/shadowrun___)
  • - [Halo: Reach](https://www.mobygames.com/game/halo-reach_)
  • - [Ridge Racer 6](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/ridge-racer-6)
  • - [Ninja Gaiden II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ninja-gaiden-ii)
  • - [Lost Planet: Extreme Condition](https://www.mobygames.com/game/lost-planet-extreme-condition)
  • - [Dead Rising](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dead-rising)
  • - [The iDOLM@STER](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/idolmster_)
  • - [Tengai Makyō: Ziria](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tengai-maky-ziria)
  • - [Students of Round](https://www.giantbomb.com/students-of-the-round/3030-33362/)
  • - [Enchanted Arms](https://www.mobygames.com/game/enchanted-arms)
  • - [Ninja Blade](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ninja-blade)
  • - [Culdcept Saga](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/culdcept-saga)
  • - [Zegapain XOR/NOT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zegapain#Video_games)
  • - [Bullet Witch](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bullet-witch)
  • - [Blue Dragon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/blue-dragon)
  • - [Lost Odyssey](https://www.mobygames.com/game/lost-odyssey)
  • - [Fable II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/fable-ii)
  • - [NieR Old Gross Man Edition](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/nier)
  • - [Lost Planet 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/lost-planet-2)
  • - [Red Dead Redemption](https://www.mobygames.com/game/red-dead-redemption)
  • - [L.A. Noire](https://www.mobygames.com/game/la-noire)
  • - [Left 4 Dead](https://www.mobygames.com/game/left-4-dead)
  • - [WonderSwan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WonderSwan)
  • - [Kaze no Klonoa: Moonlight Museum](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wonderswan/kaze-no-klonoa-moonlight-museum) (waHUU)
  • - [Atari Lynx](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Lynx)
  • - [TurboExpress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboExpress)
  • - [Clock Tower](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wonderswan/clock-tower_)
  • - [Arc the Lad: Kijin Fukkatsu](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wonderswan-color/arc-the-lad-kijin-fukkatsu)
  • - [Grand Battle! Swan Colosseum](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Grand_Battle!_Swan_Colosseum)
  • - [Digimon: Battle Spirit](https://www.mobygames.com/game/digimon-battle-spirit)
  • - [Macross: True Love Song](https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wonderswan/582267-macross-true-love-song)
  • - [Riviera: The Promised Land](https://www.mobygames.com/game/riviera-the-promised-land)
  • - [Blue Wing Blitz](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wonderswan-color/blue-wing-blitz)
  • - [Rhyme Rider Kerorican](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wonderswan-color/rhyme-rider-kerorican)
  • - [The Video Game History Hour](https://gamehistory.org/the-video-game-history-hour/)
  • - [Fairchild Channel F](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Channel_F)
  • - [Game Boy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy)
  • - [Super Mario Land](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-land)
  • - [Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-land-2-6-golden-coins)
  • - [Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wario-land-super-mario-land-3)
  • - [Metroid II: Return of Samus](https://www.mobygames.com/game/metroid-ii-return-of-samus)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy/legend-of-zelda-links-awakening)
  • - [Kaeru no tame ni Kane wa Naru](https://www.mobygames.com/game/kaeru-no-tame-ni-kane-wa-naru)
  • - [Pokémon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/pokmon-blue-version)
  • - [Battletoads](https://www.mobygames.com/game/battletoads)
  • - [Car Battler Joe](https://www.mobygames.com/game/car-battler-joe)
  • - [Ninja Five-O](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/ninja-five-o)
  • - [Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow](https://www.mobygames.com/game/castlevania-aria-of-sorrow)
  • - [Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fall of the Foot Clan](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-fall-of-the-foot-clan)
  • - [Metal Gear: Ghost Babel](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-color/metal-gear-solid_)
  • - [Nintendo Switch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch)
  • - [Nintendo 3DS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS)
  • - [GameCube](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube)
  • - [Wii U](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U)
  • - [Nintendo 64](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64)
  • - [Casio Loopy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_Loopy)
  • - [PC-FX](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC-FX)
  • - [Summon Night: Swordcraft Story](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/summon-night-swordcraft-story)
  • - [Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/summon-night-swordcraft-story-2)
  • - [Castlevania: Symphony of the Night](https://www.mobygames.com/game/castlevania-symphony-of-the-night)
  • - [Onimusha Tactics](https://www.mobygames.com/game/onimusha-tactics)
  • - [Smashing Drive](https://www.mobygames.com/game/smashing-drive)
  • - [Astro Boy: Omega Factor](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/astro-boy-omega-factor)
  • - [Advance Guardian Heroes](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/advance-guardian-heroes)
  • - [Gunstar Super Heroes](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/gunstar-super-heroes)
  • - [Drill Dozer](https://www.mobygames.com/game/drill-dozer)
  • - [WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!](https://www.mobygames.com/game/warioware-inc-mega-microgame)
  • - [WarioWare: Twisted!](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/warioware-twisted)
  • - [Rhythm Tengoku](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/rhythm-tengoku)
  • - [Racing Gears Advance](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/racing-gears-advance)
  • - [Scurge: Hive](https://www.mobygames.com/game/scurge-hive)
  • - [Catwoman](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gameboy-advance/catwoman-)
  • - [Azumanga Daioh Advance](https://azumanga.fandom.com/wiki/Azumanga_Daioh_Advance)
  • - [Wild Arms XF](https://www.mobygames.com/game/psp/wild-arms-xf)
  • - [Wii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii)
  • - [Mario Kart: Super Circuit](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mario-kart-super-circuit)
  • - [PlayStation 4](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4)
  • - [PlayStation 5](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_5)
  • - [Super Mario Galaxy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-galaxy)
  • - [Zangeki no Reginleiv](https://www.mobygames.com/game/zangeki-no-reginleiv)
  • - [3DO Interactive Multiplayer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer)
  • - [TI-89 series](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-89_series)
  • - [Super Mario Odyssey](https://www.mobygames.com/game/switch/super-mario-odyssey)
  • - [Stardew Valley](https://www.mobygames.com/game/stardew-valley)
  • - [Story of Seasons](https://www.mobygames.com/game/story-of-seasons-pioneers-of-olive-town)
  • - [Hollow Knight](https://www.mobygames.com/game/hollow-knight)
  • - [Octopath Traveler](https://www.mobygames.com/game/octopath-traveler)
  • - [Bravely Default II](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bravely-default-ii)
  • - [Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dragon-quest-xi-s-echoes-of-an-elusive-age-definitive-edition)
  • - [Xenoblade Chronicles 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/switch/xenoblade-chronicles-2)
  • - [Shin Megami Tensei V](https://www.mobygames.com/game/switch/shin-megami-tensei-v)
  • - [Super Mario Sunshine](https://www.mobygames.com/game/gamecube/super-mario-sunshine)
  • - [Final Fantasy IV: The After Years](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-iv-the-after-years)
  • - [Castlevania: The Adventure - ReBirth](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/castlevania-the-adventure-rebirth)
  • - [Super Mario Galaxy 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-galaxy-2)
  • - [No More Heroes](https://www.mobygames.com/game/no-more-heroes)
  • - [MadWorld](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/madworld)
  • - [Little King's Story](https://www.mobygames.com/game/little-kings-story)
  • - [Opoona](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/opoona)
  • - [Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/fragile-dreams-farewell-ruins-of-the-moon)
  • - [Pandora's Tower](https://www.mobygames.com/game/pandoras-tower)
  • - [Escape from Bug Island](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/escape-from-bug-island)
  • - [Xenoblade Chronicles](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xenoblade-chronicles)
  • - [The Last Story](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/last-story)
  • - [Lost in Shadow](https://www.mobygames.com/game/lost-in-shadow)
  • - [Elebits](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/elebits)
  • - [Kororinpa: Marble Mania](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/kororinpa-marble-mania)
  • - [Let's Tap](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/lets-tap)
  • - [Wii Sports](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/wii-sports)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess](https://www.mobygames.com/game/legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess)
  • - [Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/dragon-quest-swords-the-masked-queen-and-the-tower-of-mirrors)
  • - [Wii Sports Resort](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wii/wii-sports-resort)
  • - [Wild Arms](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wild-arms)
  • - [Wild Arms 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/wild-arms-2)
  • - [Lagnacure](https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/573140-lagnacure)
  • - [Lagnacure Legend](https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/578000-lagnacure-legend)
  • - [Final Fantasy VII](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-vii)
  • - [Final Fantasy VIII](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-viii)
  • - [Final Fantasy IX](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-ix)
  • - [Final Fantasy Tactics](https://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-tactics)
  • - [The Granstream Saga](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/granstream-saga)
  • - [Brightis](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/brightis)
  • - [Blaster Master: Blasting Again](https://www.mobygames.com/game/blaster-master-blasting-again)
  • - [Team Buddies](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/team-buddies)
  • - [Jackie Chan Stuntmaster](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/jackie-chan-stuntmaster)
  • - [Alnam no Tsubasa: Shōjin no Sora no Kanata e](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/alnam-no-tsubasa-shjin-no-sora-no-kanata-e)
  • - [Velldeselba Senki: Tsubasa no Kunshō](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/velldeselba-senki-tsubasa-no-kunsh)
  • - [Ghost in the Shell](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/ghost-in-the-shell)
  • - [Xena: Warrior Princess](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/xena-warrior-princess)
  • - [Jumping Flash!](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/jumping-flash)
  • - [Jumping Flash! 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/jumping-flash-2)
  • - [Chippoke Ralph no Daibōken: The Adventure of Little Ralph](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/chippoke-ralph-no-daibken-the-adventure-of-little-ralph)
  • - [Kaisoku Tenshi](http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/kaisoku-tenshi-%E5%BF%AB%E9%80%9F%E5%A4%A9%E4%BD%BF-high-tension-comical-action-game-the-rapid-angel-playstation-psn-1998/)
  • - [Linda³ Again](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/linda-again-)
  • - [LSD: Dream Emulator](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/lsd-dream-emulator)
  • - [Tail of the Sun](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/tail-of-the-sun)
  • - [Aquanaut's Holiday](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/aquanauts-holiday)
  • - [Aquanaut no Kyūjitsu 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/aquanaut-no-kyjitsu-2)
  • - [Kaze no NOTAM](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/kaze-no-notam-)
  • - [Boku no Natsuyasumi](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/boku-no-natsuyasumi)
  • - [Moon: Remix RPG Adventure](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/moon-remix-rpg-adventure)
  • - [Dragon Warrior VII](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/dragon-warrior-vii)
  • - [Persona](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/persona)
  • - [Persona 2: Eternal Punishment](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/persona-2-eternal-punishment)
  • - [Zanac X Zanac](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/zanac-x-zanac)
  • - [Guilty Gear](https://www.mobygames.com/game/guilty-gear)
  • - [Elemental Gearbolt](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/elemental-gearbolt)
  • - [Alundra](https://www.mobygames.com/game/alundra)
  • - [Alundra 2: A New Legend Begins](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/alundra-2-a-new-legend-begins)
  • - [Septentrion: Out of the Blue](https://www.mobygames.com/game/septentrion-out-of-the-blue)
  • - [PoPoLoCrois](https://www.mobygames.com/game/popolocrois_)
  • - [PoPoLoCrois Monogatari II](https://www.giantbomb.com/popolocrois-monogatari-ii/3030-43520/)
  • - [London Seirei Tantei-dan](https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/575306-london-seirei-tantei-dan)
  • - [Ape Escape](https://www.mobygames.com/game/ape-escape)
  • - [Gran Turismo](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/gran-turismo)
  • - [Gran Turismo 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/gran-turismo-2)
  • - [Vagrant Story](https://www.mobygames.com/game/vagrant-story)
  • - [Vandal Hearts](https://www.mobygames.com/game/vandal-hearts)
  • - [Alice in Cyberland](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/alice-in-cyberland)
  • - [Legend of Legaia](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/legend-of-legaia)
  • - [MSX](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSX)
  • - [Amiga](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga)
  • - [Mega Man Legends](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mega-man-legends)
  • - [Mega Man Legends 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/mega-man-legends-2)
  • - [The Misadventures of Tron Bonne](https://www.mobygames.com/game/misadventures-of-tron-bonne)
  • - [Atari Jaguar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar)
  • - [Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/trevor-mcfur-in-the-crescent-galaxy)
  • - [Primal Rage](https://www.mobygames.com/game/primal-rage)
  • - [Highlander: The Last of the MacLeods](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/highlander-the-last-of-the-macleods)
  • - [Alien Vs Predator](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/alien-vs-predator)
  • - [Super Burnout](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/super-burnout)
  • - [Power Drive Rally](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/power-drive-rally)
  • - [Club Drive](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/club-drive)
  • - [Black ICE\White Noise](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_ICE%5CWhite_Noise)
  • - [Motor Toon Grand Prix](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/motor-toon-grand-prix)
  • - [Cybermorph](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/cybermorph)
  • - [Tecmo's Deception](https://www.mobygames.com/game/tecmos-deception)
  • - [Steam Deck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck)
  • - [The Witcher](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/witcher)
  • - [Hybrid Heaven](https://www.mobygames.com/game/n64/hybrid-heaven)
  • - [Sin and Punishment](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sin-and-punishment)
  • {“sticky”:true}

    holy crap

    I'll echo, “holy crap”. Thanks for your tireless work esper.

    insert credit, the podcast for people who say “yeah, the switch is okay—but have you ever heard of the wonderswan?”

    Haven't started the episode yet but the only thing I care about going in is seeing ||cómo de seguera es la lista de Brandon||

    Just looking at the episode notes and how long the episode is and wow, amazing work Esper! Thank you! I'm going to have a nice long walk and give this a listen

    [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/ERQBHeO.jpeg]


    a wonderful episode! thank you to all.

    i know it wasn‘t exactly the main topic of the episode but i’m pretty sure there isn't a good controller for the switch. the pro is best, probably, but the dpad SUCKS and mine has a noisy left stick that drives me mad.

    in spite of that, i managed to enjoy metroid dread with it! i guess i just really like those boss fights lol

    @“rootfifthoctave”#p54131 preview of the “game of the year” episode - I will veto Metroid Dread if it comes up on the show, sunglasses face

    When I listened to the episode I let out an audible gasp at the suggestion of a Windows PC being a videogame console. I can see where the argument for it is coming from, especially with modern systems having greater functionality than to simply play games, but I feel that two important characteristics of consoles are that games work right out of the box, and that each piece of hardware is standardised - something that can‘t be said of PC (though it’s arguable that the latter point could be said of the Steam Deck).

    I'd also consider what the controller is for a PC too - presumably mouse and keyboard, but there are tonnes of games for it that practically require you to use a standard controller designed for other platforms.

    Anyway, I'm nitpicking. I really enjoyed this episode and I adored hearing a list of games being reeled off for most of the systems and remembering just how much of a blast I had with them at different parts of my life.

    The problems with discussing “Windows PC” are, first of all, there are thousands of variation of Window PCs that are widely different (from hardware to software). Having a average or below PC with Windows won't give you those “democratic” feelz that Frank touted. A great gaming PC will cost way more than a real console these days.

    might be possible to break down the computer category and find a console analogue at a few points in history. Distinct enough game look, formats, and device aesthetics

    I'd say:

    early cd-rom era PC
    first period macs (macintosh, mac plus, mac II etcx)
    powermac era mac

    otherwise yeah just too indistinct for consideration

    @“exodus”#p54136

    On one hand, let us have the only half good spanish developed big budget game that has been made on a while!

    On the other hand...

    https://www-anaitgames-com.translate.goog/articulos/mercurysteam-empleados-condiciones-trabajo?_x_tr_sl=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=es&_x_tr_pto=nui

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyJcVkazOSw

    @“exodus”#p54136 Go read the Dread Thread (the… dread?) as I think you‘ll find the general IC community opinion somewhere between not very innovative and nuanced at best. I certainly played and thought about Metroid 5 in 2021, but I wouldn’t put it above say VA-11 HALL-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action or Control, both of which I also played a lot of last year.

    As far as the show itself, The DirectX PC as a console is interesting (I'm only a few consoles in). I get and appreciate Frank's point, but the experience just isn't there. As I've gotten older, I have been appreciating playing games on consoles more and more. A big part of that is because with say, the PS5 port of _Control_ I clicked "download this free game" as part of my PSN subscription (which I have anyway for other games I like to play with my friends, but this isn't meant to be a discussion of the business model) and then I launched it and it looks and plays incredibly well.

    As a counterpoint, I picked up the steam copy of _Streets of Rage 4_ to play with a friend, and I can't get it to run as well on my medium-gen PC as it did on my PS4 which drives me insane. Its frame rate drops randomly and the experience just isn't as good. And this is from someone who has been in and around the computer and tech field my entire career and have been dealing with stupid hoops we have to jump through on PC games since I was old enough to bring home the Michalangelo virus on a shareware disk just in time to wipe my family's FAT table weeks before tax season. (Dad was pissed.)

    And this is still before emulation comes up. I joke that "Retroarch" is a game and that the object of the game is to get _Metal Gear Solid_ running as well as it did in Bleem circa 1999.

    As much as I like playing PC games and games on the PC and having PCs that can play games, I don't know if I'm ever going to build a PC for playing games as a primary goal ever again.

    Wow esper, thank you for pulling that all together!

    I kinda love the inclusion of the Windows PC, even if only for the audacity of the suggestion.

    Ultimately my problems with PC as a game console, which I did not have time to think of or articulate on the show are:

    1. consoles have a more or less reliable experience. You get an Xbox Series X or S, you know more or less how games will look on it even though there are two versions. Frank's PC and my laptop play games VERY differently.
    2. consoles have lot checks, quality checks, etc to make sure they run on that environment. PC games can be whatever.
    3. a game console‘s primary function should be playing games. Just because you CAN do that doesn’t mean that‘s what it is - I mostly played games on my TI-83 in school but that doesn’t make it a game console.
    4. Direct-X isn‘t even one thing, it’s been changed and updated over time. It's like saying the playstation brand is a console. The games you could play in 1985 are not related to the games you can make in 2022.

    But more than anything, I just think it's against the spirit of the question! The PC can now, or will eventually be able to play every game from every console on this list. That's not fun to discuss! In a 6 minute question I would've agreed, but in an episode about ranking game consoles, it's kind of like a "list over" sort of answer if you accept the PC as a game console.

    The spectrum makes total sense on the other hand - who was using that thing for business software? It ultimately was a game console, that's what it's remembered for.