Ep. 294 - Final Fantastacular XVI, with Gio, Gita, and Ash

### Ep. 294 - Final Fantastacular XVI, with Giovanni Colantonio, Gita Jackson, and Ash Parrish

Game journalists [Giovanni Colantonio](https://www.digitaltrends.com/users/giovannicolantonio/), [Gita Jackson](https://www.xoxogossipgita.com/) and [Ash Parrish](https://muckrack.com/ash-parrish) unite to make Insert Credit history: reviewing a video game. The party explores Final Fantasy XVI as a game, a story, and as a cultural artifact. Plus, the ten hottest Final Fantasy boys! Hosted by Alex Jaffe, with Giovanni Colantonio, Gita Jackson, and Ash Parrish. Edited by Esper Quinn, original music by Kurt Feldman.

**Chapters:**

  • 1. Talking about the game (02:57)
  • 2. Talking about the story **(FEATURES SPOILERS)** (27:20)
  • 3. Talking about talking about the game **(FEATURES SPOILERS)** (58:43)
  • 4. Recommendations and Outro (01:25:27)
  • **LIGHTNING RETURNS ROUND**: Rank the hottest Final Fantasy boys (01:26:35)

    **THE INSERT CREDIT RANKED LIST OF HOTTEST FINAL FANTASY BOYS (Protagonists):**

    >!
  • 1. [Clive Rosfield](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Clive_Rosfield)
  • 2. [Balthier](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Balthier)
  • 3. [Vincent Valentine](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Vincent_Valentine)
  • 4. [Cloud Strife](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Cloud_Strife)
  • 5. [Squall](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Squall)
  • 6. [Noctis Lucis Caelum](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Noctis_Lucis_Caelum)
  • 7. [Locke Cole](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Locke_Cole)
  • 8. [Zidane Tribal](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zidane_Tribal)
  • 9. [Tidus](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tidus)
  • 10. [Jack Garland](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_Garland)
    !<
  • **A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:**

  • - [Final Fantasy XVI](https://www.mobygames.com/game/204724/final-fantasy-xvi/)
  • - [Clive Rosfield](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Clive_Rosfield) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Final Fantasy Tactics Advance](https://www.mobygames.com/game/10325/final-fantasy-tactics-advance/)
  • - [Final Fantasy X](https://www.mobygames.com/game/5673/final-fantasy-x/)
  • - [Final Fantasy VIII](https://www.mobygames.com/game/1149/final-fantasy-viii/)
  • - [Final Fantasy Tactics](https://www.mobygames.com/game/4522/final-fantasy-tactics/)
  • - [Devil May Cry series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/1104/devil-may-cry-series/)
  • - [Moogle](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Moogle_(race))
  • - [Chocobo](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Chocobo)
  • - [Pokémon universe](https://www.mobygames.com/group/475/pokemon-universe/)
  • - [Forspoken](https://www.mobygames.com/game/198367/forspoken/)
  • - [The DioField Chronicle](https://www.mobygames.com/game/191409/the-diofield-chronicle/)
  • - [Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin](https://www.mobygames.com/game/181690/stranger-of-paradise-final-fantasy-origin/)
  • - [Naruto vs Sasuke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJOX7SfDK4)
  • - [Devil May Cry 5](https://www.mobygames.com/game/121476/devil-may-cry-5/)
  • - [Final Fantasy XIV Online](https://www.mobygames.com/game/48497/final-fantasy-xiv-online/)
  • - [Naoki Yoshida](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoki_Yoshida)
  • - [Final Fantasy XV](https://www.mobygames.com/game/82135/final-fantasy-xv/)
  • - [Cidolfus Telamon](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Cidolfus_Telamon)
  • - [Cid Highwind](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Cid_Highwind)
  • - [Cid Pollendina](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Cid_Pollendina)
  • - [Dion Lesage](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Dion_Lesage) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Gil](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gil)
  • - [Diablo series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/210/diablo-series/)
  • - [The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom](https://www.mobygames.com/game/203119/the-legend-of-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom/)
  • - [Final Fantasy XIII](https://www.mobygames.com/game/43866/final-fantasy-xiii/)
  • - [Torgal](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Torgal) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Game of Thrones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones)
  • - [Ultima](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ultima_(Final_Fantasy_XVI)) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Anabella Rosfield](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Anabella_Rosfield) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Jill Warrick](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Jill_Warrick) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Theon Greyjoy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theon_Greyjoy)
  • - [Benedikta Harman](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Benedikta_Harman) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Active Lore System](https://www.polygon.com/23729201/final-fantasy-16-active-time-lore-naoki-yoshida)
  • - [The Holy Empire of Sanbreque](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Sanbreque) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Destiny](https://www.mobygames.com/game/68327/destiny/)
  • - [Dragon Age: Inquisition](https://www.mobygames.com/game/70317/dragon-age-inquisition/)
  • - [Thedas](https://dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Thedas)
  • - [Byron Rosfield](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Byron_Rosfield) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [I Want to Be Your Canary](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/I_Want_to_Be_Your_Canary)
  • - [Loveless](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Loveless)
  • - [Ralph Ineson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Ineson)
  • - [Ben Starr](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Starr_(actor))
  • - [Joshua Rosfield](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Joshua_Rosfield) **(Final Fantasy XVI spoilers)**
  • - [Masayoshi Soken](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masayoshi_Soken)
  • - [God of War (2018)](https://www.mobygames.com/game/107419/god-of-war/)
  • - [Mortal Engines (2018)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Engines_(film))
  • - [Michael Bay](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bay)
  • - [Final Fantasy XII](https://www.mobygames.com/game/21692/final-fantasy-xii/)
  • - [Final Fantasy VII: Remake](https://www.mobygames.com/game/141485/final-fantasy-vii-remake/)
  • - [Final Fantasy VI](https://www.mobygames.com/game/5202/final-fantasy-iii/)
  • - [Blitzball](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Blitzball)
  • - [Fang](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Fang)
  • - [Vanille](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Vanille_(Final_Fantasy_XIII_party_member))
  • - [House of the Dragon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon)
  • - [*Chain-Gang All-Stars*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana_Kwame_Adjei-Brenyah)
  • - [The Grishaverse](https://thegrishaverse.fandom.com/wiki/Grishaverse_Wiki)
  • - [Shadow and Bone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_and_Bone_(TV_series))
  • - [Final Fantasy XVI has a medieval approach to diversity](https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/1/23620217/final-fantasy-xvi-diversity-naoki-yoshida-interview)
  • - [Unsullied](https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Unsullied)
  • - [Jacob Anderson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Anderson)
  • - [Interview with the Vampire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview_with_the_Vampire_(TV_series))
  • - *[Dune](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(novel))*
  • - [Pauline Kael](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Kael)
  • - [Dordogne](https://www.mobygames.com/game/204357/dordogne/)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **Gita:** follow xoxogossipgita on social media, [subscribe to the gita zone on substack](https://xoxogossipgita.substack.com/)
    **Ash**: follow adashtra on social media, find [more of Ash’s writing at The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/authors/ash-parrish)
    **Giovanni**: follow marioprime on social media, find [more of Giovanni’s writing at DigitalTrends](https://www.digitaltrends.com/users/giovannicolantonio/)

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    sorry, but i just checked, and cloud is actually the hottest final fantasy, full stop.

    had a lot of fun with this episode!!

    please don’t tell tim I said fuck

    Jaffe no one picked up the ball but I also think Cid from FF4 is brilliant. Thank you for recognising the real ones.

    wish I'd listened to this before spending $70 on this game lol

    a titty spectre is haunting Valisthea

    haven‘t listened yet (just put it on) but i’m so psyched on this lineup

    5 minutes until forspoken gets dropped into the convo, hell yes

    Very clever to ask a question on the show and then answer it in such a meta way as to make the panel for the next episode to be an answer to the question (as in, create a four person party from people who have never been in an RPG)

    @“Gaagaagiins”#p122731 What are our classes

    If there’s a link to the full Naruto vs. Sasuke fight in the show notes, it can only be an Ash Parrish or Bennett Foddy episode

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    @“Jaffe”#p122732 What are our classes

    Alex Jaffe - Paladin
    Ash - Ninja
    Gita - White Wizard
    Gio - Black Wizard

    I dunno if those are super faithful but I wanted to stick to the original Warriors of Light classes

    [spoilerAverse] Shortest episode yet! [/spoilerAverse]

    Should've ranked all Cids in the series, that would reveal this game's true worth (maybe).

    These Wretched Forums have been REPUDIATED OUTRIGHT by the world's two best Final Fantasy likers, Ash Parrish and Gita Jackson, confirming that >!Clive!< is indeed the hottest Final Fantasy Boy (glad to see it was also agreed upon entirely without spoken words that FFVIIR Barret Wallace is in fact the hottest Final Fantasy Man, specifically)

    @“Gaagaagiins”#p122753 i haven’t listened to the whole thing yet, but i still think clive looks like a boring person. unless he puts a thermometer in his mouth to prove otherwise, i will still think he isn’t the hottest final fantasy boy!

    @“NoJoTo”#p122782 I think you have to factor in that this specific panel is collectively very hot for Jeremy Strong. And of all the FF protagonists Clive is the Jeremy Strongest.

    When the panel were telling their first FF games at the beginning, it reminded me my first FF was Final Fantasy II (actual II, not localized SNES IV) and that explains a lot about my esoteric taste in games and why I ended up becoming a SaGa fan.

    After hearing this episode and discourse on this game in general, it's something that seems like it has some neat ideas but has way to many red flags for me personally. This feels like a game I'll probably get around to someday when I can get a cheap used copy and marvel and the interesting ideas and boss fights and look at it sort of like I'm trying to analyze the design philosphy the dev team was going for rather than something I would fully enjoy by itself.

    great fun. gonna need that FF ladies ranking list too!

    as far as first final fantasy, I got the platinum version of FF7 for PS1 without knowing anything about it. £20.
    My track record for picking up games I'd never heard of because they looked cool on a shelf is pretty good -- ff7, vagrant story, xcom: enemy unknown