Ep. 313 - Nintendo Apocalypse Monster

### Ep. 313 - Nintendo Apocalypse Monster

Our most popular Insert Credit panel undergoes action experiences, chases down Chester Cheevos, and delivers judgments of gaucheness. Hosted by Alex Jaffe, with Frank Cifaldi, Tim Rogers, and Brandon Sheffield. Edited by Esper Quinn, original music by Kurt Feldman.


**Questions this week:**

  • 1. At what point does a strategy game become too complicated? (08:58)
  • 2. Is swimming in games ever good? (15:03)
  • 3. How long before release is the right time to announce your video game? (20:41)
  • 4. Where would you take Sonic and his friends if they were in town? (26:06)
    Insert Credit Quick Break: [Transgender Day of Remembrance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_Day_of_Remembrance) (32:32)
  • 5. Let’s talk about that Suicide Squad game and live service games (33:52)
  • 6. How would you name a new console to compete with the Xbox and Playstation? (42:02)
  • 7. If The Purge were real, how would that affect video games? (53:43)
  • **LIGHTNING ROUND:** Name Design - British TV Shows (submitted by LeFish) (58:41)

    Recommendations and Outro (01:05:27)


  • - [Yakuza / Ryū ga Gotoku series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/8208/yakuza-ryu-ga-gotoku-series/)
  • - [Akira Nishikiyama](https://yakuza.fandom.com/wiki/Akira_Nishikiyama)
  • - [Hannibal Lecter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Lecter)
  • - [Kazuma Kiryu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazuma_Kiryu)
  • - [Evil Zone](https://www.mobygames.com/game/8465/evil-zone/)
  • - [Famicom Wars series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/3984/famicom-wars-series/)
  • - [TearRing Saga: Berwick Saga - Lazberia Chronicle Chapter 174](https://www.mobygames.com/game/163464/tearring-saga-berwick-saga-lazberia-chronicle-chapter-174/)
  • - [Fire Emblem series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/2195/fire-emblem-series/)
  • - [Will Wright](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Wright_(game_designer))
  • - [Yggdra Union: We'll Never Fight Alone](https://www.mobygames.com/game/33439/yggdra-union-well-never-fight-alone/)
  • - [R-Type Tactics series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/15207/r-type-tactics-series/)
  • - [The Game of Life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_of_Life)
  • - [Candy Land](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Land)
  • - [Disgaea series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/7536/disgaea-series/)
  • - [Kikou Souhei Armodyne](https://www.giantbomb.com/app.php/kikou-souhei-armodyne/3030-52254/)
  • - [Wild Arms XF](https://www.mobygames.com/game/36612/wild-arms-xf/)
  • - [Quake](https://www.mobygames.com/game/374/quake/)
  • - [Ecco the Dolphin](https://www.mobygames.com/game/6677/ecco-the-dolphin/)
  • - [Super Mario series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/10044/super-mario-series/)
  • - [Sonic the Hedgehog series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/584/sonic-the-hedgehog-universe/)
  • - [Flappy Bird](https://www.mobygames.com/game/63533/flappy-bird/)
  • - [Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty](https://www.mobygames.com/game/5211/metal-gear-solid-2-sons-of-liberty/)
  • - [Descent](https://www.mobygames.com/game/692/descent/)
  • - [Tomb Raider series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/68/tomb-raider-series/)
  • - [Metroid Prime: Remastered](https://www.mobygames.com/game/199460/metroid-prime-remastered/)
  • - [Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/207710/armored-core-vi-fires-of-rubicon/)
  • - [Legend of Zelda series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/596/legend-of-zelda-series/)
  • - [Triangle Strategy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/179656/triangle-strategy/)
  • - [Sega has been hit with an Unfair Labor Practice charge](https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/15/23963109/sega-has-been-hit-with-an-unfair-labor-practice-charge)
  • - [Big the Cat](https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Big_the_Cat)
  • - [Berkeley Bowl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Bowl)
  • - [Lake Merritt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Merritt)
  • - [Fish Batman](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Bryce_Wayne_(Earth_-11))
  • - [Donkey Kong Country series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/8396/donkey-kong-country-series/)
  • - [Koi-Koi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi-Koi)
  • - [Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Squad:_Kill_The_Justice_League)
  • - [Batman: Arkham series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/9940/batman-arkham-series/)
  • - [Destiny series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/11045/destiny-series/)
  • - [Left 4 Dead](https://www.mobygames.com/game/38055/left-4-dead/)
  • - [Fortnite: Battle Royale](https://www.mobygames.com/game/104208/fortnite-battle-royale/)
  • - [Overwatch](https://www.mobygames.com/game/79170/overwatch/)
  • - [Battleborn](https://www.mobygames.com/game/80719/battleborn/)
  • - [Tiny Tina's Wonderlands](https://www.mobygames.com/game/181892/tiny-tinas-wonderlands/)
  • - [Brothers in Arms series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/4013/brothers-in-arms-series/)
  • - [Lethal Company](https://www.mobygames.com/game/211474/lethal-company/)
  • - [Roblox](https://www.mobygames.com/game/74075/roblox/)
  • - [Halo series](https://www.mobygames.com/group/2782/halo-series/)
  • - [Among Us](https://www.mobygames.com/game/149316/among-us/)
  • - [Kevin Conroy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Conroy)
  • - [Marvel Spider-Man](https://www.mobygames.com/game/113066/marvel-spider-man/)
  • - [PlayStation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation)
  • - [Xbox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox)
  • - [Dreamcast](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamcast)
  • - [Wii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii)
  • - [MSX](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSX)
  • - [Malice](https://www.mobygames.com/game/23508/malice/)
  • - [Hunter × Hunter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_%C3%97_Hunter)
  • - [GameCube](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube)
  • - [Sega Saturn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn)
  • - [Wii U](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U)
  • - [Nintendo DS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS)
  • - [Nintendo 3DS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS)
  • - [Uber](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uber)
  • - [Ur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur)
  • - [Mii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mii)
  • - [The Purge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purge)
  • - [GameStop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameStop)
  • - [Funko Pop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funko_Pop)
  • - [PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds](https://www.mobygames.com/game/87379/playerunknowns-battlegrounds/)
  • - [Death Stranding](https://www.mobygames.com/game/136593/death-stranding/)
  • - [The Return of the Archons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_the_Archons)
  • - [The Trouble with Tribbles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_with_Tribbles)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **Brandon:** Consider the blu-ray commentary for the first [Resident Evil](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_(film)) movie
    **Frank**: [Marvel Spider-Man 2](https://www.mobygames.com/game/210733/marvel-spider-man-2/)
    **Tim**: [Band of Brothers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_of_Brothers_(miniseries)), [The Heroic Trio (1993)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heroic_Trio)

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    Tim’s right about Band of Brothers. I rewatched it during lockdown entirely in the bath and got water lodged in my laptop screen, entirely ruining it. Five stars!

    I regret not catching my phone autocorrecting Dooby Duck into Dodgy Duck. Oops! British TV shows for kids are by and large big hits and big misses but I loved Penny Crayon as a kid, especially as it has a infectiously good theme tune.


    It's hard to pick a favourite "swimming in games" feel for me, and I'm very much cheating, but I used an Action Replay once to increase Link's swim speed by some ridiculous amount in Wind Waker, enough to be able to swim from the starting island to the next nearest one, and the one after that, and I had a fun time scooting in the sea and trying to see what I could find.

    Loved it - not just because I didn‘t spit our my coffee for a change, but the lightning round was amazing! I got to relive bits of my childhood described in just the weirdest way I’ve ever heard! Great list @“LeFish”#591 and now I have the theme to the Poddington Peas stuck in my head. And turns out I still remember ALL the lyrics!

    And of course sausages grow in the wild over there, same as in Italy with pasta:


    I’m the one human on earth who likes The Pacific better than Band of Brothers. It’s less consistent but the good episodes (the Battle of Okinawa especially) are mind-blowing, and it made me check out one of the actual memoirs it was based on. George Pelecanos of The Wire worked on the show!

    cryme river


    @“esper”#p141307 How long before release is the right time to announce your video game? (20:41)

    Something I thought of listening to this discussion is Frog Fractions 2. Simultaneously a very long marketing cycle and then a stealth drop. It was a big ol' failure. Don't really know what lessons to learn from that one.

    my first thought hearing Chris the Crocodile is that it could be called Kris the Krossodile and star Kris Kross (or we keep the original name and it stars legally distinct hip-hop duo Chris Croc). It would still be a platformer, for obvious reasons. Not sure how much British people were actually into Kris Kross though.

    @“saddleblasters”#p141368 They made it over to us and Jump was way too big a hit song than it should have been.

    I wore my clothes backwards once, second worst fashion mistake I ever made.

    Great episode, especially loved the Alan Wake / Marc Ecko's Getting Up / Pokémon Sleep trifecta there at the end.
    Shoutout to the [My Perfect Console](https://shows.acast.com/my-perfect-console) podcast re: console name.

    hey all, some editing weirdness in this episode has been fixed. some of you might have an mp3 that doesn‘t include the “ad” read this week, which is a shame because it’s a good one. today is Transgender Day of Remembrance, and a listener was kind enough to make a donation in Insert Credit's name to a queer housing group in their area.

    if your podcast listening service/app doesn't include the ad read and you'd like to hear it, you can delete and re-download the episode (it's freshly fixed along with a few other editing things I wanted to correct), listen to the episode [on our website](https://insertcredit.com/show/313/), or [click here](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lgzjgk5pVcir9t6om_tUN7Vp8tqHEyHZ/view) to hear Jaffe's read directly.

    if you're in a position to do so, please consider donating to groups and charities that help queer and trans folk (like me!) in your area. apologies to anyone who missed out on hearing the read, and thanks!


    @“TomoftheFog”#p141359 I didn’t spit out my coffee for a change

    This feels like a failing on our part!


    @“exodus”#p141392 This feels like a failing on our part!

    Would it help that I laughed way too hard at your Remedy joke?

    When I was a tween I told my Grandpa I was hoping for a Playstation for Christmas and he thought it was some sort of playground equipment.

    Nishiki‘s design to me just feels like Slam Dunk’s Hisashi Mitsui during his bad boy antagonist time.

    The long hair don't care bad boy. A too cool for school boy. I wonder if Nishiki would cry if Mitsuyoshi Anzai walked in to set him straight?

    _4. Where would you take Sonic and his friends if they were in town? (26:06)_
    Easy. Angel Island, hehehahahuhuheheh...

    I didn‘t even realize how frothing my anticipation for Mrs. Miyamoto’s return was!

    The way y‘all phrased the thing about Mario and Sonic fighting being the ultimate 90’s playground conversation made me think about what's the equivalent for kids nowadays and all I could come up with was: who would win in a fight? that fnaf bear vs. the banana guy from Fortnite?

    Been playing that Boku 2 translation; the swimming in that‘s pretty chill. Not gonna pretend it has the best controls in the world but it’s low stakes and pretty and I like doing it

    When I first saw Marc Ecko's Getting Up I didn't know Marc Ecko was a real person; I assumed he was the guy on the box. Also, I misread the 's not as a possessive marker but as an abbreviation. Marc Ecko is getting up!