the guy has larry clarke vibes
Iāve only seen the Florida project. I resisted it for the longest time but ended up finding it very earnest and affecting.
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hey bourgeoise people can make good art and be offputting and weird while doing it 
so maybe not even worth mentioning as there are greater sins in this world. But his whole deal is a little strange to me
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I agree. Thatās why I had no interest in the Florida project and was surprised when I liked it as much as I did. Was hoping he could strike twice with the new one.
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I guess in an attempt to be a little smarter and less lazy about my comments: I get that heās being āgoodā on the subject of āmarginalā people and āsexā but I donāt think thereās much insight or depth in his films as yet. So itās like this positive objectification at least to me
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I kinda agree but also thought it was one of the best movies in years
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playing devilās advocate: i suppose i would struggle to call the florida project a movie with insight or depth, but outside of being a good frame by frame moving picture, it faithfully depicted what life can be like sometimes. i didnāt need any more from it than that.
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Basically I trust him completely behind a camera and not at all behind a typewriter
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yeah it might just be a particular set of cultural resentments that makes me feel this way. Like why does eg Werner Herzog not seem like heās doing poverty/trauma rubbernecking. American mfa film school is just irritating to me fair or not to the actual work
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on all other things, i am with you. but something about that willem dafoeā¦.
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i mean, i guess itās still worth seeing! couldāve been a fluke too, i remember enjoying tangerine way back when (though to be fair i was very very stoned when i watched it). i just felt likeā¦ in this one, heās treating sex work metaphorically/allegorically, and not being super careful about where that leads him. it felt like it was about how the men around anora see her and not about, like, anora herself; she didnāt feel like a developed character. and that could be fine but given the way the movie pretty freely objectifies her it felt to me like it was recreating the misogynist view that a lot of people have about sex workers without necessarily going far enough to critique or complicate that view. i donāt consider myself a stickler for needing a movie to have A Moral, but sex workers are already so stigmatized, and cinema has viewed women as objects for so long, that i felt really unsatisfied with where this movie landed.
but i also know people for whom the movie did work. ymmv!
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I would be okay with a universe where Jim Carrey played Wyatt Earp in Tombstone. It feels kind of like Dr. Robotnik is preparation for the role.
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I think wirhout Mikey Madison giving the performance of a lifetime the movie falls apart at the seams.
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yup!! she totally slayed, i hope she gets work forever
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So has anyone figured out what game Ivan was playing on his xbox in Anora?
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Getting incredibly into Merchant Ivory moviesā¦. Always wanted more of call me by your name, turns out that old British dude and his pals were making one like every year for fifty years.
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Nice! Definitely light up Maurice and also maybe Howardās End.
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Itās definitely not a movie with a clear message but I find myself chewing on it a lot since I saw it. Thereās an interesting generational conflict between Anya and Ivanās handler Toros, her seeing him as a judgemental, paternalistic authority figure and him seeing her and everyone else her age as a vain, spoiled brat, neither quite able to recognize that they both have an unhealthy, transactional relationship with this family that theyād be better off without. Lots of misplaced anger and resentment between working class people who lack the power to stand up to the people exploiting them.
Thatās part of why I think Anora comes across as underdeveloped - she doesnāt really get to have any honest interactions with anyone until sheās left with Igor at the end of the movie. She has to treat customers with the utmost affection and deference, and sheās so used to being judged for her profession that she treats almost everyone else with immediate hostility. I had a bit of a āBruce Willis was dead the whole timeā moment when she cried boning Igor in his car at the end and I realized itās the most intimate sex scene in the movie and itās the only one where you see no nudity. Even when she was married to Ivan she still treated him like a customer.
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So uhhh my friend was working as a projectionist at a movie festival and he projected Megalopolis for Coppola himself
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i see that! and i have also been thinking about it a lot since watching it. i didnāt buy that she would ever allow herself to be vulnerable in front of igor when he bound and gagged her in a way that is reminiscent of sexual assault. or at least, thatās a red line for me as a viewer where i feel that it either needs to be handled in a delicate way or it has to go full bad-taste exploitation, and this movie does neither. i felt like in order to sell them becoming close, the movie has to downplay her feelings about what happened - up to and including playing the scene where it happens as comedy.
it felt like it had a very totalizing/flattening view of class struggle, that doesnāt fully think through how men and women experience things differently due to misogyny. and i guess thereās only so much depth you can fit into a two-hour fictional movie that also has to be entertaining but it just fell far short for me.
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