Movies Talk

I watched Mikio Naruse‘s movie Floating Clouds last night. Classic Japanese drama, I guess. I didn’t really care about it. Too dry for me or something. Naruse doesn‘t get much love these days, so I’d like to appreciate him, if someone can set me straight.

Watched MASH this morning with a friend. I thought it was great. Violently funny, lots of memorable episodes and set pieces, tons of that great New Hollywood irreverence and cynicism. The person I watched it with didn't like it, but so it goes. Maybe my favorite Altman of the 5 I've seen.

@“2501”#p86034 this dude rules!

i rewatched _happy hour_ a couple of weeks ago for the first time since the theater. even better than i remembered.

i guess i should also rewatch _asako 1 & 2_ because it's the one i remember the least and was sorta _that was a good movie_ about in a disappointed way after happy hour.

i love that lady's loser son in the third segment of _fortune and fantasy_.

@“2501”#p86034 did the speaking engagement happen yet?

I feel like I'm not allowed to call myself an actual Hamaguchi fan, because _Drive My Car_ was the first movie I saw by him -- but I did take the bus all the way to Chicago from Madison WI (\~4 hours) to watch it the first night it was playing in theatres outside of NY and small pockets of California. I had seen reviews for _Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy_ earlier in the year and was disappointed enough that I couldn't watch it that I felt it was absolutely necessary to see _Drive My Car_. Also I secretly love Haruki Murakami, though it is my sworn duty to deny that and pretend I hate him whenever his name comes up.

The movie ended a few minutes before the last bus back to Madison departed, and the theatre was too far away to get there in time, so I had it all worked out that I would drink a big coffee right before the movie, try my best not to pee before it ended (which I succeeded at), then walk around Chicago for six hours in the cold and dark until the morning bus. This was an excellent way to experience the movie! The sense of emotional catharsis at the end of the movie was mirrored by the sense of physical catharsis my bladder experienced upon running to urinal right when I finished listening to the absolutely beautiful credits music ([which you can listen to here, but be warned there's spoilers for the end of the movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDIHCytA8Jg) (the spoilers are on the level of opening a novel to the end and reading the last sentence before you started it)). I walked up and down each of the roads parallel to Michigan Ave for an hour and a half, crossing the Chicago river around 6 times. Then around 1am I took a bus deep into the South Side, walked to Midway airport, got there around 4:30 AM and took the Orange Line back to the loop so I could get onto my bus outside of Union Station. This all gave me plenty of time to think about the movie in that particular way you can only do when you're not consciously trying to think about anything. Of all the thoughts that passed through my brain, for some reason the likely-war-crime-committing great-grandfather that I'm named after was at the top of the list, and now I'll forever be unable to disassociate him from the movie.

I watched _Asako I&II_, _Happy Hour_ and _Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy_ shortly afterwards. _Happy Hour_ is my favorite. I also just noticed that some of the documentaries that he filmed earlier in his career are now available for easy streaming, so I'll probably watch those in the next few weeks. It's nice that _Drive My Car_ has led to more distribution in the West of his older stuff.

I think what affected me most in December and January was watching interviews with him talking about all sorts of stuff -- how the camera is more naturally a tool for documentary than fiction, that it's sort of weird and unnatural to try to tell fictional stories with film; how _Happy Hour_ was a product of a acting workshop, and the reason it was so long is that he felt it would be unfair if some of the participants only had insignificant roles, so he rewrote the screenplay so that every character had a magnificent importance; and of course I was fascinated by his descriptions of filming all the car scenes in _Drive My Car_.

I think being close to a year removed from diving into Hamaguchi's works, I can say it was a pretty critical break in how I thought about film and collaborative creation. I have come to suspect they did something to my brain that made me able to appreciate movies and literature so much more than I had before -- though besides the explicit lessons from his interviews that I enumerated above, I'm not really sure concretely what it is they could have done that changed my attitude. 2022 has been one of the most rewarding years in terms of movie watching and book reading for me. In January I watched a bunch of Zhang Lü's movies, a novelist-turned-director, whose movies can perhaps be thought of as anti-novels -- attempts at doing everything you can do with a movie that you can't do with a book. In March and April I did a deep dive (or at least deeper than I ever had previously) into Lu Xun's writing, and confirmed that not just is he really as important as I was told by the collective authorities of modern Chinese literature, but also he filled me with a thousand feelings I'd never felt before. This was completely different from my response to my first encounter with him in high school, where I was like "Yes I get it -- cannibalism is a metaphor for what you perceive as the brokenness of Chinese society." I had a similar reevaluation of Yu Dafu a few months later, whose novella _Sinking_ (沈淪) is beautifully written, but kind of terrifying and messed up. In July I read _Foreign Studies_ by Shusaku Endo, a collection of two short stories and one short novel that deal with the impossibility of understanding between the East and West, and then in August I read everything by Saiichi Maruya that's been translated into English -- _Grass for my Pillow_ especially has echoed in my brain over and over.

I guess what I'm saying is that over the past year it seems like I have developed this capacity for feeling that I didn't have before -- or maybe I have started interpreting certain books and movies more as attempts at communication (sometimes from people who may have died decades ago). I'm not sure if whatever ideas and thoughts and feelings that arise in me when I read/watch their works is what they really were trying to say -- and I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do with these ideas and thoughts and feelings that I receive -- but when a connection has been established, no matter how staticky and hard to discern, I now have this desire (or even a feeling of duty) to listen as best I can that I'm not sure was there before. Still, I constantly struggle with the question of what the value of engaging with literature and film actually is, and often feel like a parasite, only consuming other people's communications without trying with all my might to put out my own faint signal the way they did.

(To be clear, I didn't just turn into a guy who uncritically loves everything now. There's a lot more that I read and watched this year that I didn't really care for. It just feels like I've unlocked a new way to engage with stuff that I like, despite not really being able to put into words how it is different from how I engaged in stuff before.)

That being said, now that I've explictly talked about I'm sure all my capacity for enjoyment of art will immediately disappear starting today! Oh well.

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@“Coffinwarehouses”#p87028 i love that lady’s loser son in the third segment of fortune and fantasy.

also this 100%

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@“Gaagaagiins”#p85201 What are the most funny movies you have seen/and can think of?

very late response, and a bit of an obvious one, but _spinal tap_

Monkeybone 2001 is not good

it has some fun set design and costumes and effects

the writing is mostly cliches and very cringe. I squirmed a lot and wished it would end. I could tell exactly how one part would go from bad to worse and it made me so scared.

Cast is dense with big names: Whoopi Goldberg as Death dressed like an onmyoji I guess in overalls, Thomas Haydn Church as her assistant in kabuki samurai outfit (uncredited). super weird stylistic choice. Giancarlo Esposito as Hypnos was funny. Bob Odenkirk as the surgeon chasing a reanimated organ donor was funny but he's always funny.

Brendan Fraser shouting "monkeybone" a lot, and things like "all right monkeybone, let's do this."

I should have watched Cool World (1992).

thanks, I dodged a bullet there. was just about to press play on Monkeybone right this very moment

Friends don't let friends watch Monkeybone (2001)


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It’s October, a time in which everyone shows scary movies on Twitch, but it’s also the time of year in which I show movies featuring lots & lots of cats, hence tonight’s line-up.

First up is The Cat, from 1992, which lacks an official trailer as far as I can tell, so here’s about two minutes from one of the fight scenes, against a dog in a junkyard…

https://twitter.com/fort90filmclub/status/1579517212549058561

Next, what night of horror movies is complete without an anthology? And The Uncanny is legit overflowing with kitties…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ek35s7vmm0

Third up is The Black Cat, from 1989, which is not to be confused with the more famous (relatively speaking) flick of the same name, but it too is a giallo film, one that’s also the unofficial 3rd installment to two other movies by yet another giallo filmmaker…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdCfE7TiiCY

Fourth up is The Sentinel, which is admittedly pretty light on cats, but it features a stacked cast & an Old New York backdrop, hence its inclusion…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YdJNeNXLE

And finally is a “bonus bat” movie, which is a remix of a classic, and one that you may have heard of already…

https://twitter.com/BenjaminCrew1/status/1575510323934760960

Stream starts at the usual time, 8PM EST, and at the usual destination…

https://www.twitch.tv/wondervillenyc

BTW/FYI (translation: tonight's FORT90 TV contains FORT90 FILM CLUB-adjacent content)…

https://twitter.com/fort90filmclub/status/1582144470367100928

appreciated the Dreamcast reference in VHS 99

It’s once again October, a time for scary movies, and what’s scarier than films that are about the end of the world?

Tho everyone loves seeing the world burn in various big budget productions, hence the cinematic highlight reel that is Unclear Holocaust…

https://vimeo.com/49085020

Next, what better way to follow-up Hollywood than some Nollywood?

https://twitter.com/fort90filmclub/status/1584613237621985286

Sticking with satanic panic, time to finally show a crazy Christian film (can’t believe I haven’t done so already for my stream), one that’s also super rare…

https://vimeo.com/253868248

All that doom and gloom requires some lighting of the mood, so how about a post-apocalyptic comedy, one that’s animated, centered on shit being the primary source of fuel…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i7bAC2Y_XI

And finally, no line-up of doomsday flicks is completely without a ghost story. Get ready for one of the greatest J-horror movies of all time…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpsXvHMUQ3Q

Stream starts at the usual time, 8PM EST, and at the usual destination…

https://www.twitch.tv/wondervillenyc

Finally saw RRR. Extremely entertaining. Indian cinema continues to be highly inspired by video games grammar as already evidenced with Thugs of Hindostan which took a lot of cues from Assassin’s Creed. The male power fantasy made me realize I don’t know much about the status and reality of feminist cinema in India.

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@“Gaagaagiins”#p83074 Medium, so, read with a critical eye, but an interesting take on RRR: RRR and Rajmouli’s Hindutva


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@“connierad”#p83104 If you’re interested in this kind of analysis of RRR,this essayprovides a LOT of contextualizing

I have had these two tabs open in my browser for a few months and it was very helpful contextualizing, thanks!

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@“Gaagaagiins”#p85201 What are the most funny movies you have seen/and can think of?

Which do you find funnier among these?

  • * Airplane!
  • * Life of Brian
  • * Mean Girls
  • * Reservoir Dogs
  • * The Big Lebowski
  • Based on what you find funny, I have other suggestions.

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    @“JoJoestar”#p85108 So, what are some good yakuza movies outside of the popular kitano stuff (Sonatine, Hanabi, Outrage, etc)

    Here are some I can recommend… Some of them are not directly about yakuza (_Why Not?_) and/or mix yakuza themes with other genres (_Gozu_) but I think they are important to give a good frame of reference for the role of _yakuza_ in Japanese society & psyche. I’ll use the most common English title (as far as I can tell) for every movie.

    [Drunken Angel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Angel) (1948)
    [Underworld Beauty](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051361/) (1958)
    [13 Assassins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Assassins_(1963_film)) (1963)
    [Wolves, Pigs and Men](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolves,_Pigs_and_Men) (1964)
    [Abashiri Prison](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abashiri_Prison_(film)) (1965)
    [Yakuza G-men: Meiji ankokugai](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6138332/) (1965)
    [Three Yakuza](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0781601/) (1965)
    [Tokyo Drifter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Drifter) (1966)
    [Branded to Kill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branded_to_Kill) (1967)
    [Soshiki Bōryoku](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0313633/) (1967)
    [Outlaw: Gangster VIP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw:_Gangster_VIP) (1968)
    [The Wolves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolves_(1971_film)) (1971)
    [Female Prisoner 701: Scorpion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Prisoner_701:_Scorpion) (1972)
    [Battles Without Honor and Humanity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_Without_Honor_and_Humanity_(film)) (1973)
    [Graveyard of Honor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graveyard_of_Honor_(1975_film)) (1975)
    [Karate Warriors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_Warriors) (1976)
    [Why Not?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eijanaika_(film)) (1981)
    [Yakuza Ladies](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0225881/) (1986)
    [Minbo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minbo) (1992)
    [Dead or Alive](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_or_Alive_(1999_film)) (1999)
    [Gozu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gozu) (2003)
    [The King of Minami – The Movie](https://asianwiki.com/The_King_of_Minami_The_Movie) (2017)

    If you only watch one, watch Minbo.

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    @“chazumaru”#p89701 Which do you find funnier among these?

    > Airplane!

    > Life of Brian

    > Mean Girls

    > Reservoir Dogs

    > The Big Lebowski


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    Based on what you find funny, I have other suggestions.

    Ordered in descending order of funniness:

  • 1. The Big Lebowski
  • 2. _Airplane!_
  • 3. _Life of Brian_
  • 4. _Mean Girls_
  • 5. _Reservoir Dogs_
  • _The Big Lebowski_ is one of my favourite movies! It doesn't have a whole lot of belly laugh moments but I think maybe that's perhaps part of the point of these 5 movies being what they are. I honestly think about The Dude responding to Sam Elliott asking him why he always has to use so many cuss words with "the fuck are you talking about" a lot, because I too use so many cuss words. Tangential at best but I think I nearly collapsed a lung laughing at that one scene in _Burn After Reading._ You know the one... If you don't: ||[link](https://youtu.be/7a6dWV7FcJg)||

    It has been a long time since I've seen either _Airplane!_ or _Life of Brian,_ but I reckon there's probably a pretty close gap between them. I haven't watched a Python flick in ages, but I have watched _Holy Grail_ a handful of times and _Meaning of Life_ less but multiple times. Not totally sure if I've outgrown Python but I think I'd feel sad if I had.

    I'm not a hater of _Mean Girls,_ but it did come out at a time when I would be spending 8 hours a day against my will largely around the sort of people who dedicated 10% of what they said in a day to quoting a popular movie or television show, so I've heard that someone or other doesn't even go here more times than anyone needs to. That being said, I recognize that "why are you white" is a valuable contribution to global society.

    I don't necessarily associate Tarantino with comedy. I would personally say that some things in _Reservoir Dogs_ are funny, but they don't make me laugh. If I had to say a Tarantino was funny I'd probably say _Inglorious Basterds._

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    @“Gaagaagiins”#p89714 so I’ve heard that someone or other doesn’t even go here more times than anyone needs to

    oh, that's actually from something? This whole time I just thought that was something people said. (I have obviously not seen Mean Girls).

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    @“saddleblasters”#p89719 oh, that’s actually from something? This whole time I just thought that was something people said. (I have obviously not seen Mean Girls).

    [Yeah ](https://youtu.be/RUFT35S7Jb4)

    Watched that Everything Everywhere All at Once movie on one of them there airplanes. I'd seen pretty mixed reactions that tended to be absolutist in nature (overrated garbage or the best movie of the decade), so I went in without much expectation, though the fact that I watched it on purpose on a plane probably makes that clear.

    It's pretty good! Definitely not the best of the best, but it did hit me in ways that are difficult to put into words since they have a lot to do with the love I have for my wife and the fears associated with being a parent, but any movie that gets a very strong, visceral emotional reaction is at least worth talking about.

    Also watched the first half of Speed Racer on the same plane. I have no idea how people feel or felt about this, but it is just bonkers wild to me that they made a Speed Racer adaptation and tried to make it as faithful as possible. Like, the studio executives must've filled their diapers when they saw this, yeah?

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    @“edward”#p89726 Also watched the first half of Speed Racer on the same plane. I have no idea how people feel or felt about this, but it is just bonkers wild to me that they made a Speed Racer adaptation and tried to make it as faithful as possible. Like, the studio executives must’ve filled their diapers when they saw this, yeah?

    I don't know for sure but truly the fault is purely their own if they filled their diapers with anything other than cold hard cash from the moviegoing public


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    @“Gaagaagiins”#p89714 OK then not sure they are as funny pretty sure they are not as funny as The Big Lebowski but, for something funny in a similar way (outside of the Coen Brothers’ filmography), I’d give these ten films a try…

    Buffet Froid (1979)
    Ruthless People (1986)
    Les Fugitifs (1986)
    A Fish Called Wanda (1988)
    C’est arrivé près de chez vous (1992)
    Boogie Nights (1997)
    Being John Malkovich (1999)
    Turtles Are Surprisingly Fast Swimmers (2005)
    Pineapple Express (2008)
    The Nice Guys (2016)

    The foreign films will probably lose a lot from subs/dubs but alas…

    There is a subbed version of _C’est arrivé près de chez vous_ (_Man Bites Dog_) on Youtube right now! Can’t vouch for how well the (amateur?) subs transcribe the surreal Belgian humor but worth a try if you don’t mind extremely dark, satirical stuff.

    https://youtu.be/hXjQCjNZeME