Television Thread (NO ANIME ALLOWED)

Watching White Lotus 3, prepared for Walton Goggins to straight up stomp on my heart and grind it into the pavement.

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I’ve been saying for years that there are three good genres of television:

  • Rich (white) people are awful
  • ā€œHot teens doing hot teen thingsā€ [terminology taken from the Keep It podcast]
  • British

Gossip Girl is more of the second bucket than the first, though it’s markedly different than a lot of the other shows in that bucket (no pep rallies or football). I think that first season is the most critical of the wealthy it gets. Most of them are beautiful porcelain dolls with unfulfilling lives, display pieces for their parents. The show depicts that the rich characters have numerous advantages and safety nets that others don’t have and are generally unaware of their privilege. However, as the seasons go on, the richer characters move to the forefront and the show begins to genuflect to them. The ā€œpoorā€ characters (people who live in massive lofts in Brooklyn) are depicted more villainously. The show goes back and forth on whether they were ā€œcorruptedā€ by the Upper East Side or if everyone from Brooklyn is inherently evil (true imo, but besides the point). Overall the show has a pretty bizarre relationship to wealth - in large part because it debuted right before the financial crisis and then struggled to find a tone between progressivism and escapism. I can’t honestly say that the show doesn’t believe that wealthy people are better than poor people

The godforsaken reboot is somehow even worse. The wealthy characters are viewed completely uncritically and are all supposed to be aspirational tastemakers. It’s super name-droppy and feels like the writers room conjured up rich imaginary friends to approve of their own tastes. My eyes rolled into the back of my head when a seventeen-year-old said he ā€œspent a week at Berghainā€ instead of going to class.

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so where does Jackass fit then? checkmate

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Clearly some combination of the first two categories

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realizing now that Twin Peaks is in the hot teens doing hot teen things bucket :sob:

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Lynch pitches his movies pre production saying it’ll boss babes in it so it really does

does the new spider man show go here, in the superhero thread, or in the anime thread

this confusion is part of the appeal tho

only 2 episodes deep but initial impressions are good, fun mix of new and familiar in a different tone but similar idea to new ultimate spider man

i love how obviously its ripping off My Adventures With Superman, that was a good show!!! more of that!!

I’m glad Nico Minoru is here and a lesbian, i love witch lesbian and they seem to be doing more with her which i support

kinda weird that each episode is 60% setup for future arcs. why cant an episode of television just be an episode of television telling a story!!!

excited to watch more curious to see what is next in marvel animation, spiderman is definitely the guy to have take the first step because i would not give any other cape the same grace lmao

Did you pass on X-Men 97? I liked the Spider show (eventually it comes together pretty well) but X-Men was better imo

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I’ve never been much of an x woman and have never seen the original show! am i supposed to watch the original to properly get this one

totally open to it just hadn’t even considered it really

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I like the original show and I like the X-Men in general so I’m not sure how much of the series is common knowledge but I feel like you’d be fine to just skip to the new show. It’s just comic shit so not really that hard to jump in ever. I think the old show holds up pretty well but I would just watch a few episodes of 97 and see how you feel. Around the midpoint of the season it becomes more of its own thing too

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I’m watching Superman now and loving it! It’s instantly my favorite portrayal of Superman. My only tiny gripe is I don’t like the ironman-ification of the villains, you know what I mean? But it works, it’s fine. I put off watching that Spiderman because I don’t like the look of the animation style. I’ll probably end up watching it anyway cause I’m a sucker for this stuff. And for what it’s worth, xmen 97 got me excited to read a ton of X-Men comics which led to me reading more comics in general.

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tech bros with a heart of not quite gold? or how theyre just dudes in suits?

I loved the first season even if it sorta took a minute for it to hit its stride but I loved the second season (despite not finishing it yet)

Dudes in suits. I see that it streamlines the origins for all these guys so that they don’t have to have a separate unique science accident, but I don’t know, maybe some of them could have just been meta humans without explaining it. Doesn’t matter too much, though, because I love everything else going on in the show. It looks beautiful and the characters are super fun to hang out with.

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Starting Twin Peaks Season 2 if anyone cares

lagniappe:

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a while ago @GameBeginnerGirl posted about The Pitt on Max being good so I threw it on. I was not convinced at first because it is really cheesy and some of the writing is a little too ā€œfreakin epicā€ if you catch my drift, but I kept watching.

I am now obsessed and legitimately look forward to Thursdays when new episodes come out. I roll my eyes maybe once or twice an episode but so much about it is so good in that tv kind of way that i also gasp just as many times as i roll my eyes. To echo @Hunter , it is definitely the ā€œmoviesā€ side of tv as opposed to the cinema. the type of tv show you talk to your mom about.

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nooooo I refuse to let my facetious comments brand my reputation like this

oh do we not all lie to our parents - ā€œyou’ll like it! it’s a romcom!ā€ - and make them watching Safdie movies?

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i knew what you meant

I think the notion of even wanting to show your parents a Sadfie movie is the different between growing up stereotypically Californian versus stereotypically Midwestern. And I say that enviously.

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Omg I’m glad you’re liking it too! My wife and I are obsessed in the same way; that show absolutely has the juice

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been backseat driving that show, too focused on realism errors (not a doctor). There are some weird ones, and a career-ending mistake presented as the proper procedure, but it does have some uncommon realness too

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watched Eastern Gate it’s ok I enjoyed it well enough. Sort of a contemporary Polish The Sandbaggers. There were a few moments it was tilting into being on the silly 24 side but doesn’t wind up that goofy. I’m not sure what to think of the overall premise from a political POV because it covers what you would presume is an urgent and acute danger that would be like a real total disaster should it happen but then it’s given the Le Carre treatment. To compare: sure you have American movies and TV where we get attacked by North Korea or whatever, but no one thinks that could actually happen. But the material in Eastern Gate is queasily plausible - or it’s actually not and the ā€œrealā€ concerns are way overblown. Weird situation

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