You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become an RPG

I recently came across this video discussing the surprisingly competent James Bond 007 top-down Game Boy game and it got me thinking about that bygone tendency for nearly every IP to be shoehorned into an RPG at some point and how unreasonably excited that prospect made me every time. Now, granted, this is more of an action RPG Zelda-like, but my mind immediately went to Super Mario RPG, Doom RPG, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Shinsetsu Samurai Spirits Bushidō Retsuden (I had to look that title up, I just remembered there was a Samurai Shodown RPG at some point), Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood, Ape Quest….the list seems endless.

So, yeah, I just wanted to start a thread where we could ruminate on these. This phenomenon seemed to be abating as RPG elements have seeped into basically every modern game, but then a game like Yakuza: Like a Dragon appears! That game is probably something of a one-off, but current efforts to adapt properties into [mobile games]( and [tabletop games]( seem to have kept this dream alive.

I was so dang excited for sonic chronicles when it was in development. The idea of a true blue (heh) sonic rpg really got me going… and written by the peeps at Bioware?? Sign me up! Alas, it was not to be. I bought it launch day, played maybe an hour and traded it back in. So disappointing.

My favorite instance of this, I think, is the Mega Man Battle Network series. I love me a good card based RPG anyway and the battle system in these games is fantastic good fun. I also like the way they redesigned all the classic Megaman characters and baddies.

@milo#21320 I was in the same boat as you leading up to Sonic Chronicles! It‘s one of those things that, on paper, seemed just crazy enough to work, especially since Bioware was still riding pretty high at that point. Fortunately I had the (rare) good sense to not waste my money on a copy. MM Battle Network has always intrigued me, though there are so many games in that series now I wouldn’t even know where to start. I've heard about this game inspired by the mechanics of Battle Network, but I can not speak to its quality.


From what I understand the 3rd one has the most going on, but it's split into 2 games pokemon style, so you need both to get all the chips. My favorite is probably 2 since it's the one I spent the most time on back in the day. But if you're really interested, just start with the first one! It's got a good story and the gameplay is pretty much the same throughout all the games so you're not missing out on too much.


@kory#21319 Ape Quest

I was not aware of this! (The woes of never owning a PSP.) I sure would play this game!

@saddleblasters#21326 Yeah, like most of the games I mentioned above I am just aware of them and haven‘t actually played them. The exceptions from my list are Super Mario RPG, which is one of my favorite games ever, and DOOM, which I played on iOS long ago before the app stopped being updated to run on current OS versions. That game’s design was really intriguing and played similar to Orcs & Elves, which used the same engine programmed by Carmack. I played the latter on DS and quite enjoyed it.

Part of the reason I wanted to start the thread was to hear others' experiences--were any of these especially good? Do they hold up? Panzer Dragoon Saga has always seemed like the Holy Grail of these, but I was honestly a bit underwhelmed when I finally saw gameplay on a Giant Bomb stream a few years ago. That being said, I will still immediately buy it if its ever rereleased!

there's the case of persona, which had become (arguably) less of an “rpg,” so they made a spinoff to be more of an rpg

@Syzygy#21339 I was browsing around on their site and contemplating why it reminds me of Yoda Stories when I looked more closely at the banner:


Hey look, Derek Yu!