@“deepspacefine”#p121647 WATCH THIS SPACE.
I read all that stuff you recommended me! Wanted to share my brief thoughts about each.
Potential spoilers for Justice League: Generation Lost, Jeff Lemire's Animal Man, Christopher Priest's Deathstroke, Gene Luen Yang's New Super-Man, and Robert Venditti's Hawkman:
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Generation Lost: Wow, I love these goofballs! Captain Atom is especially interesting. Great premise for a story, loved it every step of the way.
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Jeff Lemire Animal Man: I didn‘t expect this to be such a gnarly horror story. I love Brother Blood. Very cool book!
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Priest Deathstroke: I had a hard time following this one at first. Just on a storytelling level. It has a rhythm to it that took me a while to get used to. By the time it got to Deathstroke Defiance, I had hit a stride and started really enjoying it. And by the end I felt like I had gotten to meaningfully know some of those characters. Good.
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Gene Luen Yang’s New Super-Man: This one is very fun. The way it fuses Chinese mythology with American super heroes makes for something pretty novel. They created so many characters that I really want to know more about. Alpaca especially! I would love to see a Baixi and Deilan book.
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Venditti's Hawkman: Very compelling right from the start. It feels like an adventure story by way of a myth. They do so many things with the past lives idea that are all cool. Taking that all away and making the final story about their last life in the golden age was a good way to end it. Hawkwoman is cool.
As I was reading, I made a list of characters I wanted to know more about. I'm going to start exploring that next.
@“Jaffe”#p121663
Okay, I’m good to announce this: Gita Jackson(!) and I are developing a NEW PODCAST about DC Comics, through the lens of the 2006 year-long maxiseries 52. It’s gonna be extremely good.
@“Jaffe”#p124074 Congrats. Is it going to be a year-long, weekly podcast? That would make 52 episodes.
We‘re working out the details! We’re shopping the show to networks and have multiple formats prepared.
Noice! I will listen!
Hey @Jaffe what’s your view on Rob Liefeld and what would you say is the most interesting work he has done for DC? I thought this was a pretty interesting and nuanced take on the character.
https://youtu.be/jRMTCQgEVuM
@“◉◉maru”#p124712 My view is that his ability as a stylized artist is overshadowed by the fact that he’s kind of a huge jerk in real life! It’s fun to make fun of him sometimes not because he is an inherently poor artist, but because he is a dude with regressive ideas who is very shitty to other people in the industry.
I’d say his most interesting work for DC is his Hawk & Dove and Deathstroke comics in 2011-2012 which somehow managed to be the worst part of an already controversial publishing initiative. It really lays bare how badly his shtick had aged in 20 years.
Besides Rock of Ages, what Darkseid stories would you recommend?
@“Aizen”#p124728 Jack Kirby’s Fourth World Saga still rules. New Gods, Mister Miracle, and Forever People all from the 70s.
The best to ever do it after Kirby was Walt Simonson, with his Orion series from 2000. Issue 5, which is just one long gladiatorial combat scene between Orion and Darkseid, is an all timer.
For a more recent book, Tom King and Mitch Gerads really nailed how we perceive Darkseid today in the 2018 Mister Miracle series. The book is not perfect, but their Darkseid Is.
Thanks. I'll check those out. Darkseid is one of my favourite DC villians
I‘ve been reading the New 52 Captain Atom and I’m kind of obsessed with Freddie Williams II's art for this book. I saw he got an Eisner for a Mister Miracle series; is there anything else I should check out from him?
Hey @Jaffe. Very specific one here, but, around 2003, I really enjoyed Gotham Central, Batgirl, Plastic Man, Hawkman, JLA, and The Flash. But my favourite book at the time was either Powers (Image Comics) or Blue Monday (Oni Press). I also was really into Daredevil, but I don’t know if we’re allowed to talk about Marvel in this thread, or ever.
Since then, I’ve mainly only read manga. But none of the weird shit. Only good manga, honest.
Based on that, is there a current DC book you think I could pick up and immediately enjoy? Looking for cape or cape-adjacent shit in particular, with DC lore appeal.
@“whatsarobot”#p124842 You can talk Marvel in this thread if you want, but do not expect me to have any expertise in that area at all.
If you enjoyed those, and we're talking DC's CURRENT current lineup, like what's being published this second, you're gonna like SPIRIT WORLD for the Cassandra Cain factor, JOKER: THE MAN WHO STOPPED LAUGHING for the comedy, and for the deep lore stuff, everything Mark Waid's putting out right now. Particularly BATMAN/SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST and SHAZAM!
A new HAWKGIRL series is also starting literally today, and my good friend Jadzia Axelrod is writing it, so I would suggest checking that out too.
@“Jaffe”#p124851 Awesome! Thanks very much. Will give those a try.
EDIT: Just sampled all of them on Comixology (because DC Universe Infinite is not available in my region!), and the Mark Waid stuff especially is really hitting the spot.
@“whatsarobot”#p124929 Mark Waid is back and better than ever. Really missed that guy.
@“Jaffe”#p124932 I don‘t know where he went, but I’m glad he's back! I enjoyed his work with Mike Wieringo on Fantastic Four.
@“whatsarobot”#p124933 Let’s just say it’s not coincidence he returned very very shortly after Dan DiDio was fired
Just recorded the pilot episode of “52 Pickup” with Gita Jackson. @espercontrol is on the boards. If you've ever wanted to listen to a podcast where I talk as much as tim usually does on an insert credit episode, this is the one.
@“Jaffe”#p125036 This is very exciting news! Jaffe and Gita talkin' DC? Yes please.