One thing I like about this show is the four of you never have the fear of missing out on a video game. I feel like I have to play everything, all the time, or at least be aware of it. You guys are just like… yeah, video games… whatever. I find it endearing and a stress relief.
@“exodus”#p150494 i guess i‘m trying to think of an analog for “can do both kinds of tone, but often is only associated with one,” i’d never claim to have the batknowledge like the IC crew do!
I can‘t believe these guys didn’t come up in the food mascot discussion
They even had some videogames!
https://youtu.be/JSvP8WW7meQ
I think if you'd just let my man Frank cook a little he could have hammered that fart bit into shape
ADV is a fine as-is. Just say it like RPG rather than being short for ‘adventure’
@“rootfifthoctave”#p150559 Ah yeah, that makes sense!!
@"TheFragranceOfDarkCoffee"#p150560 It was the first thing I thought of but I figured it was maybe too obvious OR frank would say it.
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@“esper”#p150444 Invent a new speedrunning category (28:40)
The panel were circling around a third broad category of speedruns, beyond Any% and 100%, which is the Low% run.
I'll let the Youtube channel named after the category describe it, and demonstrate how in some cases it can be fascinating if for no other reason how, depending on the game, it can either be identical to the Any%, or end up being drastically different from both the Any% category and the 100% category in philosophy and execution.
https://youtu.be/v2nRW3wKnVY?si=t_qAFd4mtsAzMnkg
on new speedrun categories:
something about speedrunning is that it‘s a goal (to get to the game’s “end” as fast as possible), that when applied to most games, brings out many of their glitches and peculiarities; it changes the game from being played on the more abstract, representational level, to being played on a more “literal,” game-code level, where glitches are as valid mechanics as anything “intended.”
but other goals can bring about this as well. super mario 64's a-button challenge has created some of the most fascinating puzzles of any game, but puzzles requiring the usage of mechanics nobody really designed.
my question, then, besides speedrun categories, is what other goals can showcase and leverage these unintended features of games?
I haven't even gotten the chance to listen to the episode yet, but I just want to say when I woke up this morning, saw the notification for the episode, and read the title, I got to start off my day with a great laugh, and I appreciate it.
@“Jaffe”#p150544 Kim Justice made a video on one of the two Weetabix video games! https://youtu.be/ca0oJ1-Xdec?si=9CN9_OMv98SvC5Lu
@exodus thanks for keeping QUADRALAX alive. For too long it has been stuck in the slow moving background layer of words but with increased usage it could move forward into one of the other 3 layers.
Did anyone post that SMB3 speedrun that Frank mentioned? I didn‘t notice it, so here ’tis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK0PgI5dt2A
Loved the discussion on Japanese Adventure games as a style of game. curious about other games that have that naming style ! what would you call that? I‘m almost tempted to just call them [adjective] (noun) {verb} bylines for games
does anyone have any other interesting examples?
some friends pointed out that Galerians was marketed as “Psychic Action 3D Adventure”, Shenmue was billed as a, “Full Reactive Eyes Entertainment”, and we all love Metal Gear Solid’s “Tactical Espionage Action”
https://twitter.com/i/status/927922621261414400
@“Dunkr”#p150622 WHOOPS I also should've mentioned that you were the one who found it. I knew I left part of the story out!
@“NewGenderPlus”#p150630 Snatcher is specifically defined as a Cyberpunk Adventure by Konami.
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I‘m once again playing the first Dragon Quest Monsters game, though this is the first time I’ve played the original English translation in nearly ten years. I'm surprised to see monsters referred to quite often as “pals”:
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I played RDR2 and never knew about the lost girl thing! But interesting to think about it in the context of the GTA: San Andreas Hot Coffee “minigame” (not particularly SFW, naturally). Data mining got them in trouble in 2004 - maybe in 2018, they decided to leave something for the miners to obsess over?
I love genre BS nonsense, so let's try “probing story game”. Bonus points if your “probing story game” includes aliens and abductions.
Kojima used the term “multi-process story” during the development of Policenauts. In the game's own words (courtesy of the glossary translated by JunkerHQ):
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A development process created to experiment with how best to combine a game‘s story with its interactivity. Previous adventure games have primarily used the idea of multiple endings to expand a game’s interactivity, but this method does not let all players experience the best possible story the game has to offer. Policenauts takes the completely opposite approach, keeping the basic framework of the game the same, thereby allowing all players to appreciate the game‘s story and themes to their fullest, and instead changing small elements of the game’s content in response to the player's pace and actions throughout the course of the game.
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With this method, a player‘s individual actions, no matter how minute, are reflected in the game’s dialogue and events, while the basic story and themes remain unchanged. This helps draw the player into the game and also allows the developers to fine-tune the story and ending in one fashion.
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This method, previously used in Snatcher, has now been further developed with Policenauts. It could be said it has offered up one possibility for the future of interactive cinema.
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@“progn”#p150724 multi-process story
I do think this describes Policenauts perfectly. I'm only in the second act but it clearly has a specific path on where the story is going and I'm assuming that there can only be one natural ending to it. I know I have probably missed additional conversations and interaction points with certain characters but I can live with that.
The odd interactions with female characters I can do without though. Without spoiling it, the bit with the massquito was just weird!