Rare Kyle Bosman L
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The world needs more Kid Gās. Very highly detailed, fully voice acted, surprisingly large role in the deep lore. A month after beating the game, my brain still hasnāt processed what he was there for.
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I only go for his opinions on western / modern games.
Ok Iām just going on one screenshot what little I know from this spoiler: seems like similar to what they did with Hell House: memorable weird enemy that has been exalted for the modern era (respectfully)
like I always wanted there to be more of those goblins. theyāre the most classic enemy. in FF and in real life. period. FFVIIās industrial-era-fantasy take on goblins was cool but it was rare.
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I donāt always like replying in these threads because, by the time I get around to finishing the game everyone has already said what I thought I understood as the meaning of all the weird elements the story decided to include, and I hate sounding like the āOh yeah me tooā kind of guy.
However, Iām thankful I wasnāt alone in thinking the lifestream was also being representative of differing timelines. That was the first thought that popped in my head during one cutscene where Cloud is talking to Sephiroth in a bunch of white light (sorry, I donāt remember the exact moment in the game, but it was later). I donāt mind this kind of multiverse narrative but I did see a bunch of comments online referring to the story as being āNomuraād.ā
And honestly I too am worried about the imposter talk with Cloud/Tifa, but I honestly donāt think Iāve given it much thought besides wondering why it wasnāt explored further.
Oh well, Iām hoping the third game delivers an ending that makes sense for the most part. I get they wanna make something new and not just do a remake, but I just want it to make sense.
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Echoing @kunekune, I know āthe discourseā has moved on from this 110 hour game that came out the last day of February, but I just rolled credits.
Overall, I liked it! The open world stuff sure did drag though eh?
I had been prepped for Nier: Automataās ending to be weirder than it was when I played it a year after it was published and I had the same reaction to Rebirth. Satisfying, and clever in its own way, but not weird enough. Thankfully I didnāt feel like it ever got Kingsom Hearts weird.
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still waiting on PC announcement lol
Paging @Death_Strandicoot who said they would discuss Rebirth.
This is one of my favorite frames in the entire game:
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Did anyone else find the endingās FMV sequence to be almost too good looking? I watched it in 4k HDR, and it wasnāt even all that uncanny really, just so incredibly sharp and detailed and the lighting and color saturation was out of this world. Maybe just because most of the game was already one of the best looking games Iāve played in spite of being compromised a bit by the PS5 hardware, that scene being rendered to the highest degree was crazy. It is the most important scene in the remake so far, so it makes sense, but dang.
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Iāll share a screenshot later, when Iām at my PS5.
Iāll go on record as one of those people who did not like the ending.
I entered the game, giddy with wonder whether it would stick to killing Aerith or let her live and do something different. I was determined to be happy either way. Then the game opens with the Zack stuff and I was excited. I have no idea whatās going on; this is cool!
Maybe Iām a simpleton who didnāt understand the nuance of if the parallel universe story, but I didnāt really understand the payoff for all the Zack-world stuff. Aerith still dies. But also she doesnāt and fights one last boss fight? Is this still all in Cloudās head?
I wonder what someone who played Rebirth without playing the original first would think is happening. Iām imagining someone whoās young enough to have advised gamingās big spoiler. Would the Zack stuff be exciting? Would the story carry as much tension without the āwill they/wonāt theyā question constantly in the back of their mind? Would the ending make sense? Iām not sure if any of it.
Then again, we understood what was happening through blocky polygons and an amateurish localization back in 1997.
I do like the game, quite a lot (though a bit less than I liked Remake. Then again, I liked the Midgar section best in the original, so this is unsurprising). The open world was a miss for me, but the side quests are much improved over Remake, the characters are so lovely and familiar, the visuals are stellar, and the combat is still amazing. It also did a lot less of that thing where a boss changes to a new phase and resets the stagger meter right before you can stagger it.
There were so many great moments. Redās voice change, the Vincent boss fight, everything with Zack.
But then Chadley. 
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We all agree that Chadley is the true villain of the game. That one cut scene where itās implied heās in a vat or something and Hojo is operating on him didnāt generate sympathy with me. Not a Chadley fan.
The CG looked great throughout. The in-game cutscenes also looked great. I think the only graphical hitches I noticed was some occasional LOD/texture caching hitches which are a hallmark of Unreal. Weird lighting on faces is still how you can tell if youāre real-time vs being pre-rendered.
But the PS5 is the beefiest gaming platform I have by a good margin so I didnāt feel like I was disappointed in any way.
Except by Chadley.
The ending was a way to have their cake and eat it with Aerith dying but also getting an ambiguous potential future. Big Aerith fan (the voice actor just nailed it!) but Iām a bit hesitant if going forward sheās going to have a meaningful story arc that ends, or if itās just going to be fanservice with her being playable.
Poor Tifa though. Her not really having any lines in the final movie was devastating. 
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I think Chadley is a poster child for when diagetic open world itineraries are just plain inferior to text and checkboxes.
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The open world stuff was a failed experiment IMO. I sure did do it though so maybe Iām part of the problem.
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I agree it was bloated and a lot of it sucked. Chadley also sucks and I wish to delete him from the world forever.
I think when I play through both games again ahead of Reimbursement Iāll enjoy Rebirth more. I really liked it, but the checklist thing gave me some bad feelings so itāll be nice to ignore it next time.
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I forgot to mention that I have played the entire game and did all of the world intel and a ton of side quests andā¦ there was not a single toilet depicted in the entire game.
LOL.
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Shinra owns all of the toilets in the world of FF7.
This is canon.
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okok iām glad the discourse waited on me here; frankly, 200 hours of infinite wealth (GOTG) and another hundred in eiyuden chronicles couldnāt be helped
here are my disconnected thoughts
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i dig what yāall are saying in the earlier posts about scrhodingerās death, but if sheās not gone, what was the rest of the party clearly mourning?
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i voted that i went on the date with tifa, because i did everything to do so with tifa, and got aerith instead. sheās great, but i wanted tifa so thatās my vote you canāt change it youāre not my real dad
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yeah the world was bloated, but i stuck with it - up until nearly 100 hours, when i was just done and needed to wrap this up. like, i havenāt liked a mainline FF this much since XII. itās crazy. i often think about how so many western folks (myself included) got dragon quest wrong for so many years - bashing it for being a series afraid to take big chances, when the truth is, it very much does in all but settingā¦itās just a series that has known what it is for decades now. modern FF is the opposite; itās not just my inability to lay down a core series identity, itās that i canāt even tell you what i want from a modern FF anymore
then, this big game comes along and i love it and wanna point to that, but if a reimagining of a 25+ year old game is what iād want, i guess iām part of the problem here -
chadley is forgettable. thereās not enough there for me to hate. iām not gonna remember him 10 years from now and still talk about how much he sucks on ice the way i do genesis or whatever dudeās name was in crisis core
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i really enjoyed yuffieās intro in the DLC/intergrade chapter, if they wanna give us another one of those in between the long wait with like vincent or someone iād be down
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speaking of, it was neat seeing the avalanche crew fleshed out in chapter 1, but giving yuffie and cait fuckinā sith an actual voice/motivation this time around was refreshing. i recall cidās one in the original being a bit problematic with how shitty he was to his wife for a while, gonna imagine we skip over that here
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speaking of obvious divergent timelines, did zach go back and save wedge or did he hang a right and get whatever cloud needed? or both, or is that kinda the point here
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someone else pointed out that we didnāt get too much into cloudās dissonance/breakdown here, but i very much think we did. we covered how much tifa was trying to protect him from himself, right up to when he went full-on possessed/shitty going into the temple of the ancients (and before that when aerith lied about him selling everyone out by serving sephitorth the black materia)
a lot of this thread is about the ambiguity determining how much of the narrative we had here was reliable vs a broken cloud rashamoning it
-finally if anyone like buys the vinyl OST to this or the last chapter and decides you know what? records are for dumb hipsters, thatās fair! pls sell me your copy for a good price, you can call me whatever you want weāll still be friends
ā¦wait the hwhat now
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I donāt know if the FFVII characters are poster children for communication.
The only completely honest FFVII character is dead before the game starts (well, at least in one universe? Itās complicated now).
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It makes sense to buy this billboard above the liquor store because Tifa is a bartender.
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