@“X3N0Sbioz”#p128790 what's the other game?
Also, this game rips, absolutely you should play it.
I often think of playing games that I’ve played over and over. Dooms, Ridge Racers, Burnouts and Tekkens are always in the back of my mind, dancing and singing “play me, play me!”
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@“MovingCastles”#p128689 But even with the FF open world - you could run around and explore the map but why would you? There really isn’t a crazy amount of exploration and it’s only useful for grinding. BUT at the same time it does make you feel like you’re in an established existing world so. Eh maybe it’s a bit more complicated lol
Ok, this may be a different context than the conversation at hand, but FFVII may not be the best comparison.
FFVII and many others have a lot going on in the overworld. Yeah, it's mostly through the mechanics of random encounters, but real ones already know you've got tens of hours of gameplay hunting chocobos, doing side quest events like yuffie, going to that weird goblin island, etc etc. and we like it that way. A huge part of RPGs is using your imagination (like a table top session), and as graphics progressed I feel something was lost as they were able to just "hand you" animations of things that would normally be left up to imagination or descriptors. When those newer animations fall short or miss the mark, you are worse off, kind of like how it would often be better to eat *nothing* than to eat a McGriddle sadnwich. I would say FFVII especially has _definitively_ "a crazy amount of exploration". My version of elementary school playground rumors was a kid describing to me the breadth of secrets and sidequests in FFVII, and it was absolutely *biblical*.
Anyways, I have art from SaGa Frontier 2 pasted on my wall. I've only ever beaten SaGa 1 and 2 for game boy. I think about picking up Romancing SaGa and _Frontier_ and _Unlimited_ pretty darn often.
I‘m thinking about playing the three ffxiii games but people keep dissuading me while encouraging me and it’s quite confusing. I think it'd be an easier decision of I had more time or they were shorter or both!
A recurring theme as I get older:
Absolutely clamoring for a fan translation—
Ten-fifteen years pass—
Fan translation comes out, and I’m so over it by then, or kind of put it on the back burner, instead of being super excited and playing it asap!
Moon Remix RPG is a perfect example of this.
Mizzurna Falls also
There’s kind of countless examples at this point. Though some translations I’ve definitely played through graciously, and I especially enjoy *re*-translations and de-localizations of the classics that already have a million patches, like Final Fantasy IV, VI, and VII.
I still haven’t touched the latest Shiren Fan Translations, like the N64 one.
By the time Shiren for Game Boy is translated, I’d like to think I’d play it. I am still playing Chocobo Mystery Dungeon on wonderswan after all, because it’s the closest to black and white Shiren on GB!
I think about PachiPara 14: Kaze to Kumo to Super Umi in Okinawa a whole lot but not being able to read any Japanese makes it not so great.
Anything even vaguely related to Zettai Zetsumei Toshi gets me very excited.
https://youtu.be/V7aqovf6vuw
@“exodus”#p128906
I have also been thinking about this!
Also thinking about playing FFX, which I have mostly shrugful memories of when I was however old I was in 2001.
A friend of mine is really trying to get me into visual novels and I guess I could just hop in but, like, who has the time to play all the games I even already own?
@“Mnemogenic”#p128436 I always hear people say that was the one with the best combat system, and I already thought XIII's ideas really coalesced by the time the game opens up.
@"exodus"#p128906 if you time it right then you could be on Chapter 11 of the first game by the time you had the free time to chill in the area that chapter lands you in haha.
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I've played FFX!! I played it on release, and I hated it. I loved X-2 on the other hand. I often think about returning and playing the two over again back-to-back. I've always wanted to play an undub of the first because I really don't gel with the weirdo delivery of literally every character in X's dub, but for X-2 it only maximizes the camp. The way I remember it, X-2 embraced everything I found distracting about X, to its great benefit. I have been downright flabbergasted by the love FFX has garnered over the years and I want to give it a second chance.
@“exodus”#p128906 nah they're good, no mixed signals necessary
@“connrrr”#p128987
This was also my reaction, except I never played X-2! It's been very strange to see it become one of the best regarded games in the series over the last 20 years.
@“treefroggy”#p128872 honestly I picked the 7 screenshot because it was the first one that came up in Google. Maybe what I‘m saying applies to a lot of the FF game pre-7 as well. But I’m saying this as someone who hasn't played those game in years.
My counter argument is that you can probably do the same minigames and interesting stuff without the overworld. Like finding Vincent in FF7 is just as weird and mysterious as finding Yuffie in some bush in the overworld.
But I completely understand your argument. To contradict myself I actually enjoyed the planet exploration in the Mako in Mass Effect 1. And that was super tedious stuff.
Maybe your right about graphics and mysteries though. I recall being blown away as a kid hearing stories of the occult magazine and ghost side quest in FF8. Then I got curious and YouTubed it and thought "yeah okay sort of cool" glad I didn't spend to much time running around for this.
But yeah to circle back I want to give FFX credit. Like a lot of people I was initially disappointed with the lack of overworld in X. In retrospect I believe while X is a whole lot linear I think it does more to flesh out it's world through its tighter level design without losing to much of the fun and mystery you may or may not have enjoyed in the previous titles.
man, i keep thinking about giving ffx a fair chance someday too — i first played it all the way thru on the pc hd version a few years back and even though i know i kinda rushed thru it, it still felt somehow hollow to me. the only other experience i had with it was when it first came out and a friend had it on ps2 and i played up until the first like, puzzle dungeon thing (which i have a hunch no matter what i feel about the game, i will always dislike those). i‘m not sure what exactly it is about it i didn’t like, but for some reason the pacing felt like i was being pushed forward too much, and i‘m a fan of the way ff13 does the same thing?? it’s like ffx gives off the chill vibes of it being something you can hang and luxuriate in and i never really was able to, while 13 has no problem telling you, hey, this is the path, you can chill out in chapter 10. idk, i kinda maybe went into ffx planning on being a hater too lol
mostly i played it cuz x-2 looks real intriguing to me and i feel like i'd be way more into it, but by the time i got thru ffx i was kind of over it all and never jumped into it
also i keep thinking about replaying horizon zero dawn --- that was kinda my reintroduction to modern gaming after a longish break and i played the crap out of it on my ps4, but i'd be interested to see it again on ps5 and i had a ton of fun with it anyway. also partially to refresh myself on what anything in the game is in case i wanna play forbidden west (side note i wish game and movie titles had numbers in the sequels like they used to so it was easier to keep track of the orders)
As someone who bounced off of FFX my entire life and finally gave it a fair shake on it‘s own terms in 2020, I can highly recommend it for anyone at all! It’s very good, even if it‘s not my favorite and I have a couple qualms. It has moments unlike any other game I’ve played, and some downright funny, sitcom moments that made me laugh and feel genuine feelings that games almost never make me feel– again, like watching a sitcom. The sexual tension was real. (specifically the scenes where they‘re in the Inn, feel like a sitcom set in a holiday inn. and John DiMaggio’s performance is the best, even if he's a pasty italian american and not at all indigenous or Hawaiian lol.) … and my only qualms with the game are around very nitpicky RPG stuff that is 100% just my personal preference, like the elemental weaknesses being too clearly telegraphed compared to prior games in the series, haha.
It‘s funny because there were things about Lost Odyssey I found comfortingly FFX-like, like the gentle sway of the camera following the player character across any fixed-perspective areas that was only possible when the backgrounds went from prerendered to fully in-engine while still restricting camera control—but the camera was in a really 3D space now so the view wasn’t orthographic when panning anymore. The humour also felt familiar.
Is the PS3 version of FFX worth playing over the PS2 version?
I‘m thinkin about being the basic boy playing old games in a series to prepare for new games, but for weird game series. I’ve been touching those early Armored Cores, which were just cool PlayStation mech games I rented as a pre-teen that are much different as an adult in end-stage capitalism, and would like to spend next week mostly looking at bits of those in case I end up copping AC6 (I might not though – kind of neat having that series proper be a big thing I can get to whenever). Like @“antillese”#59, I‘m thinking about Star Ocean. I got a few hours into First Departure R a few years ago but didn’t realize the modern release had no autosaves to speak of and ended up losing a few hours of progress at the beginning and dropping it. I think I‘m ready for another swing, because I’m super into this Star Ocean 2 remake. Context is cool. It'll be cool to swing back by here and see if this happens.
@“tomjonjon”#p129110 I've heard the case made that the new character models lose something. Knowing that they had to re-model main characters from the ground up is enough to turn me off it.
A hacked PS3, even a slim, will run whatever iso of either game really well.
hm i wonder if playing the ps2 version would make me feel better about the game, i‘ve only played it on steam which… i don’t really have a gaming laptop, and i hate gaming on my laptop anyway
@“connrrr”#p129114 I will stick with the PS2 version then. Thanks! I would imagine X-2 would be a similar case.
Completely unrelated but I remembered I had the undub of Tokyo Mirage Session ♯FE installed on my Wii U and I still totally want to play that for real someday. Mostly I want to see this scene in context.
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Because that is a killer look.