Insert Credit Writing Workshop

A few weeks ago in the book thread, a couple people expressed interest in starting a writing workshop/writing club. I’m using this thread to recruit people to join the workshop and lay out some general rules for how it will work.

What’s a writing workshop?

A writing workshop (or club, if you prefer something more casual) is a group of people that formally share their creative work with each other for critique and feedback. These workshops are usually segregated by genre, such as poetry, fiction, or nonfiction, but since we’re a smaller group of people, we’re going to lump everything together. As long as it’s writing, you’re welcome to share.

How will it work?

Every two weeks, a maximum of two people will share a piece of writing, which will then be distributed to the club. At the end of that two weeks, the readers will share their thoughtful feedback with the submitters. Two different people will then share their work with the group and the cycle repeats.

There will also be space for more casual discussion, but the focus of the workshop is the delivered piece of thoughtful feedback in the form of a “letter” and/or marked-up document of the piece in question. All of this will be handed asynchronously and through writing, so there’s no need for live video or audio discussion.

And obviously this isn’t school or anything, so we can be elastic with our deadlines. They are primarily for accountability.

Logistics?

We’re going to host this writing workshop on Google Groups. This is to make it easier to share and distribute work as well as limit visibility to people that are in the workshop. An important part of writing workshops is trust and vulnerability, so we only want folks who are submitting their own work to have access to the discussion and feedback.

That said, anyone can join!

Why should I join?

In my experience, writing workshops are great for three reasons:

  1. They encourage you to be a thoughtful reader, which in turn can make you a better writer.
  2. They give you exposure to constructive criticism from people who have no reason to lie, which in turn can make you a better writer.
  3. They give you deadlines, which in turn can make you a better writer.

Whether you write frequently or infrequently, whether it’s 3-act dramas or Balkan arcade cabinet reviews, I would encourage everyone here with an interest in writing to join. I can’t promise it will be amazing for you (though I certainly hope it is), but every writing workshop I’ve joined has benefited me. Even the ones I hated.

Any general guidelines or restrictions?

Yes, but it can be summed up as using your best judgement. I would ask that people do not submit overly long pieces or anything that would be controversial. There is a time and place for controversial writing, but considering this forum is something we all do for fun in our free time, I’d prefer to avoid any sort of meta-discussion or make anyone uncomfortable. So please be chill.

As for the feedback itself, I will post a few helpful tips and examples of what I consider to be thoughtful feedback closer to the date. But generally good feedback just involves saying “This is what worked for me and this is why” or the opposite. It’s not hard, but it is a bit different than just saying “I liked this.”

The only rule is that to join, you have to submit something at least once.

When does it start and how long is it?

The workshop will start one month from today on June 15th.

Ideally, I would want everyone to submit twice. But depending on how many people there are, we can be flexible on that. However, it will end. People are obviously welcome to continue this sort of collaboration on their own after the workshop, but I think a formal end date will work well here.

How do I join?

Fill out this survey so I can add you to the Google Group. If privacy is a concern for you, I recommend creating an email address for this purpose.

Again, the workshop starts on June 15th, so have something ready to go by then. Or use an old piece you always wanted feedback on. I’m not the police.

But what about….?

This is my first time running a writing workshop like this, so there are probably a few considerations I’m missing and there will be a fair amount of making it up as we go along. If you have questions or suggestions, I encourage you to use this thread. While it helps to have “a leader” for organizational purposes, I want to make sure this workshop is as useful and accommodating as it can be.

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HERE IT IS!

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I’m in.

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There they are, the sweet words that compel my brain to start working

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Responded to the form before I read this but fuck it we ball

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Hell yeah dogg I am all over it. My semester just ended and I don’t have a workshop class in the fall, so I need precisely something like this. ty!

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Thankfully I’m too tied up with other projects right now, but pretend I did have the guts to submit a comic script and be vulnerable on the internet, what kind of length limits are we thinking? IE is 180 comic pages worth of script too long?

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Can you provide a word count?

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When I read graphic novels I don’t actually look at the pictures anyway (I’m jk)

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i’d say 10k words would be the ceiling of what you’d want to submit, but also to use your judgement considering this is a voluntary project people will be doing in their free time in two weeks periods.

i haven’t read a comic book script before, but for longer works like novels, people will typically submit individual chapters at a time etc. this is helpful not only for the people reading, but also will give you better feedback–it allows people to focus more intently on parts instead of just giving high-level impressions.

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Damn I guess I can’t submit my 23,000 word review of GOD HAND

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or you can give the world what is has always needed….a two-part god hand review

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Just checked and I misremembered, only 160 pages and only 20k words, including page number headers, speaker tags, etc. It could absolutely be broken up into 3-4 parts, so fair point on that.

Scripts can also be pretty awkward to read. Kinda like reading Shakespeare in school, but understanding it way better after seeing it performed.

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I’m not sure the world is ready.

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Call me naive but I think this community would give you some quality feedback on that should you want to join.

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If you do submit a portion, I say leave the panel descriptions etc. We won’t be able to give meaningful feedback on them given that they’re a blueprint for something that doesn’t exist yet, but it will help when understanding the context the dialogue is meant to work in.

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And I encourage this by the way, @Psinuxi!

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Maybe this will actually get my ass in gear for some of the writing I’ve wanted to do this year, I’ll give it a shot

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Been trying to write this year. I am very bad at it but it’s fun. Will try and get the nonsense I’ve been typing comprehensible by the 15th :saluting_face:

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To be clear, I plan to randomize the order of submissions, so only two people will have to submit on the 15th. But I don’t know who those two people are yet, and it could be any of us (including myself).

Glad to see the secondary effect of getting your ass into gear is already working (again, including myself).

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