hey who's that guy on the left i like his style
Playing through Suikoden II after playing 1 like a month ago. I haven’t fully read this thread cause I plan to play all of them and I’m enjoying them enough to kinda care about being spoiled. Writing this cause I just arrived at the part where you can choose to leave and stop fighting to get a bad ending. I’m feeling somewhat defeated in life and choose to leave and got the bad ending and now I kinda want to leave it at that for a few days before coming back to the days.
3 Likes
Just finished Suikoden 2 playing it on the PSP during commutes and transfering the save file to my MiSTer during weekends and such. Like in the first one I played through most of it trying to have as many girls on my party as i could.(loved Viki as a character in 2) and had a great old time. Really moved by most of the major plotpoints since i’m a emotional mess. Cried on the fake ending that I mentioned on the above post. I adored getting to build the castle and seeing fill with people and life. the most indie/punk aspect of this game imo
I wasn’t using a guide so i didnt get the 108 characters (ended up with 94) and was really upset when Nanami died cause she was my favorite character in the game and thought of her as the protagonist of the game. Her death not being very impactful to other characters or the overall story made me think there was a way to keep her from dying but I didn’t google it until a few minutes ago and I was right
I got the alternate ending by accident because I went to explore after the final battle and immediately thought of going to the place where Jowi and the main guy first parted ways. I didn’t want the protagonist to end up as leader of the new country because I liked the fact that the protagonist from the first one just goes away to live in peace but just learned that only happens with the bad ending 3/4 of the game through.
I think i’ll play the two Suikogaidens before playing three. Really excited to play all of the franchise and 10.000 bullets.
I also just read most of this thread since finishing 2.
5 Likes
congrats! Worth a replay to save Nanami and get the real good ending. I find the game to be pretty affecting myself for as silly as it is in some ways and independent of the attempts at pathos re Jowy and the protagonist.
Suikoden III is great and also quite different something to look forward to
4 Likes
just the fellas taking a bath
4 Likes
hell yeah
I’m reading Maison Ikkoku and there’s a gag where the house manager is given her late husband’s diary. She thinks she is going to get some great insight about his inner life but it ends up mostly just being what he ate each day. Seems probable that it’s where they got the idea for Pahn’s diary.
8 Likes
Anyone playing the new HD collection of Sewy-Ko-Den 1&2? I am going to purchase it on Steam here in a little bit. I’m excited. I started 1 years ago because everyone says 2 changed their life. But I never finished it. Reviews on Steam seem pretty positive so far! Like maybe Konami did right by the originals?
it’s a minor topic of the day. My 2 cents as stated elsewhere is remasters are better than nothing but play the originals if you can (they’re still available on PSN for the PS3/vita/psp with some extra hoops to jump through because the online store don’t work so good these days)
2 Likes
I’m gonna pop in the original 2 soon for fun.
2 Likes
I keep opening this thread thinking “Oh sweet! A coding thread!” Then realize what a fool I was and that I still need to give these games a shot
2 Likes
I sat down to play Suikoden 1 HD and immediately felt like something was wrong… the character portraits and HD text are nice. The audio sounds good so far. But the perspective of the background and world art is very awkward and doesn’t fit at all with the character sprites. It feels cheap to me, and awkward. I own the originals on PSN, so I’m going to boot that one up for direct comparison. I may return HD… But I really like how it’s widescreen!
I think part of my problem is the only 2D-HD game I’ve played is Dragon Quest 3, which has a 3D rendered world, which looks quite gorgeous. I’m sure the budget was much larger than Suikoden HD. But it, by comparison, makes Suikoden HD look quite bad.
I’ll spend a little more time with it though and sleep on it.
Some more thoughts:
- I wish there was an always run option
- I can’t believe there isn’t a quick save, I might be a little spoiled I guess on that front, but it’s quite nice to have!
- I can’t believe the 2x battle speed plays the music at 2x, making it unlistenable
- The battle environments in 3D don’t look as bad
4 Likes
the 2x battle speed speeding up music is absurd!
2 Likes
the battles are already fast too
true! I’m not into this.
1 Like
I just replayed the first section of the original on Vita (fly on the dragon to the island to talk to the lady). The OG visually so much better IMO. The pixel art is beautiful. I wish Konami had the guts to release the game as-is with its pixel art but in 16:9 maybe with more pixels added where tiles didn’t exist before. Symphony of the Night has seen releases with its original art, I believe.
An HD-2D remaster of an NES game, ala DQ3, makes sense to me. NES RPGs have not aged as well visually as PS1 games have. A lot of the best PS1 games are the pinnacle of pixel art. So doing a rasterized 2D version of the pixel art looks worse in this Suikoden HD case.
Sorry to be a bummer if anyone is into the HD version but I’m with @yeso. Play the originals on PS3 or Vita or Mister. I’m gonna keep on going with Vita, it’s a nice portable RPG.
All day I was thinking to myself, is Konami back? Are they going to do right by the games in their catalog? And it’s just apparent to me that they’re missing some key people to say: this ain’t right! The same thing happened with the MGS collection. Bizarre choices. But at least those graphically were pretty near original (or did right by the originals and not drastic art style changes in the case of 2 & 3 HD).
3 Likes
dialing into a 108 star run, and consulting the faq
(- NOTE -) The RaggedOne here can drop both Turtle Plans #2, as well as a Chick (the bath item, not the farm animal as I first thought.)
6 Likes