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yeah I'd recommend that one w/o reservation. That lead actress should have won every award for that year imo

I havenā€˜t seen many of his movies, but I quite liked still walking. I remember wanting to watch Nobody Knows, but haven’t gotten around to it yet.

Insofar I saw Nobody Knows, Our little sister and After the storm. Nobody Knows was the best of the three but it left me a bad aftertaste, while Our little sister was kinda decent. I am not very fan of Kore-edaā€˜s works but if you liked his work there’s several movies you could try like Nobody Knows and Still Walking.

Iā€˜ve watched some of the Koreeda movies, he’s a good director, although a bit too cold and stiff for my tastes, but still very worth following. The one that has stuck with me the most probably is Still Walking, already mentioned above, a really good drama about how problems go often unresolved within families, and people keep moving on while bottling everything up just to avoid conflict and confrontation within the family. Some distant Ozu vibes too, a good movie. Our little sister, Nobody knows, Like father like son were good too, but this is the one I'd recommend the most.

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appreciate the input ty everyone. Iā€˜ll give still walking and nobody knows a try. Loved shoplifters, but 3rd murder wound up kind of lazily sentimental for me, and I find the experience of being disappointed with a film worse than just seeing a bad one. It’s these ā€œgood tasteā€ and ā€œtalentedā€ filmmakers you need to be wary of sometimes

I love Distance; though itā€˜s incredibly slow to start with, it has a very odd concept at the center of it, and its characters are composed with great attention to detail. it follows a group of strangers as they meet in a sort of pilgrimage to commemorate their loved ones, who were all part of a group that decided to commit mass suicide. it’s more of a mood piece than a movie. great for a chill weird time.

Time for another last-minute heads up: got another Twitch screening in a little less than 24 as of this writing.

Same deal as last time: I like to show movies in pairs, both unified by a theme, which in this case is cats!

First is not only the best movie starring cats that you’ve probably never heard of, but the best movie starring cats period: CATS IN PARK AVENUE…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUjy5MonWVA

And after that is something that’s widely known as "the most dangerous film ever made", as well as "the most expensive home movie ever made": ROAR…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cny_D50Rr44

The show starts at 6:00PM PST/9:00 EST…

https://www.twitch.tv/wondervillenyc

Oh, and I've also been showing films over at my personal channel, if the last Monday of each month is not the best for you...

https://www.twitch.tv/fortninety

had a classy and intellectual evening in my household last night, watched:

eric rohmer's A Tale Of Summer - enjoyed quite a lot. Good sunny outdoors energy for those of us quarantine confined in the northern hemisphere. Also pretty funny. Multiple women running at full sprint away from the callow insensitive french protagonist. Gaspard needs to get his shit together

Then watched Edward Yang's The Terrorizers - have been working backwards from Yi Yi and finding these films requiring more brainpower to piece together as I go. Rewarding though. I wonder if Kieslowski cribbed a shot for the scene in Red when the huge Irene Jacob banner falls. Will have to take a look at the Frederic Jameson essay about this film as part of my ongoing efforts to seem intelligent

And RE warner brothers dumping everything on streaming for the foreseeable future: I've seen some unconcerned shrugging reactions from cinephile types, pointing out that repertory theaters will get back on their feet post covid since they are part of a separate ecosystem, and it's not like claire denis films were playing at the AMC. And speaking for myself, probably 95% of my moviegoing has been to repertory vs big chain theaters for several years now.

But I'm a little less sanguine than other elitist film snobs because 1) are we going to lose the experience of taking your kids to a big exciting show? and 2) what options do people who don't live in a metro area that can support a repertory scene going to do?

I am worried about the future of cinema, but yes, author cinema has either been ā€œpiratedā€ or seen in festivals online, or there are some theaters in Europe which have aired this movies. But really, fuck theaters and I hope mainstream companies, Disney and such get a hard beating because theyā€˜ve been incredibly irresponsible. It’s been clear since the 80s and 90s that medium budget movies, which were the ones that really attracted people to cinema, has been marginalized and their budgets moved to the series in 2000s, which was depressing because the movies that attracted attention were some casual hits, some genre cinema and mostly big budget movies and the ones nominated to the Oscars. But in a more positive note, Iā€˜m seeing festivals and film libraries trying to make movies more accessible to the public while also catering their own interests of preservation and making films commercial, which can really make a healthier environment for the more marginalized media. Let’s see, but Iā€˜m really curious if medium budget movies and author movies would be better considered in the future.

PS: A tale of summer and The Terrorizers are really beautiful, and I love the background of Rohmer’s movie.

I donā€˜t know enough about the dynamics of the business to predict what form non-arthouse theaters will take. I agree that it seems ominous with for example disney purchasing the 20th cent fox vault and the possibility of distributers owning and operating their own closed-system theaters once the chains die off. Don’t give a shit about whatever happens to super hero star wars but The People should be able to watch a fast and furious or whatever in a theater


Seeing a movie has always been, in my life at least, one of the only things I could do with someone I don’t know that well and have a reasonable certainty that we’ll both have an alright time. I mean, I personally don’t care that much about chain theaters, but if they all end up closing down, leaving only artsy theaters, then first dates and hangouts with people I feel obligated to be friends with become a whole lot more complicated when I can’t just casually suggest ā€œWhy don’t we see a movie?ā€ because the closest remaining theater is an hour away, or at least doesn’t have a showtime starting for over an hour.

Before the pandemic I started to get the feeling, especially when I talked to my sister, who is a much more socially-normal person than I am, that unless you live in, like, New York, the only acceptable after-dark social activity is going to a bar. I hate bars! I want every non-bar thing-to-do that I can get.

yes the loss of another social space is a bummer, especially I think because everyone is missing social spaces period at the present moment

Also, it's generally bad news when a corporation seems to have figured out a new way to make money in my opinion

Let movie theaters and blockbuster movies die maybe?

Movie theaters were the least social of social spaces, and they were getting worse.
If you see a movie with folk then you largely aren't interacting with those people for the duration of the movie. You interact before and after the movie. That experience grew increasingly _less_ social as movie run-times got progressively longer. If you spent the same amount of time going to see a movie with folk as in the past then you spent more time watching the movie and less time framing that with interaction.

Outside of film festivals and the like, which I do enjoy. I don't really like movie theaters.
It seems like the movie theaters of my grandfather's generation where you'd pay a small amount to see a movie (something you had no other way of seeing) and it was a social space where kids would trade comics, was largely _not_ my movie going experience. I never knew the projectionist at any theaters. Sneaking in (without paying) was barely a thing for my generation. Maybe occasionally we got a ticket for a movie with a lower rating to sneak into an R movie without an adult, already not as interesting, and is that even a thing any more in the era of assigned seats?

The really big budget movies mostly suck. They have to appeal to everyone everywhere in the world, so they are almost universally bland, inoffensive, unimaginative trash, which isn't the fun kind of trash.

I'm very okay with movies moving more into our living spaces. Go to your buddy with the big screen's house instead of the theater. It's fine. There will be more room for socialization that way, not less.

I mostly agree, but going to someone's house or staying at your own is less appealing when, for example, you want to take the kids out of the house to go do something, or if you are a kid yourself and want to hang out somewhere for relatively cheap. That was a primary activity of my adolescence anyway.

It's difficult to imagine major studios regaining the ability to make good "mainstream" films as they did in previous decades as it seems they're in a different business now. But just looking at the warner bros 21 releases that are now going to hbo, I would have liked to see: the fred hampton film, the sopranos film, and why the hell not I'd like to see the stupid new mortal kombat in a theater. If independent theater chains cease to exist, and streaming-only or streaming-heavy distribution is more profitable for the studio, they won't even extend a limited release to the hypothesized studio/distributor-owned theater. And I don't think the local arthouse in my city can afford the license for mortal kombat 2021 (or the fred hampton film).

Pre-Covid I would only see a few movies a year, but I actually disagree that its ā€œantisocial.ā€ I tend to think of a trip to see a movie as a fairly social experience. We saw Sonic in theaters when it came out, and the group of kids in front of us getting genuinely worried for sonic and also laughing hysterically made me appreciate the movie quite a bit. At home I probably would have started browsing my phone and lost interest.

Also I somehow missed the memo about a new Mortal Kombat film.. too busy nerding out over the Matrix4.

I think it depends on the space. Some of the theaters I went felt very cold and antisocial, while others that were smaller or more independent were more community-oriented and even had different film buffs clashing opinions with each other, which I feel itā€˜s really fun. But well, I’m more interested in how my niche and independent distributors will move, since I feel this is the chance of a possible resurgence of a medium budget film sector long-term wise. Maybe Iā€˜m naive, maybe I’m stupid, but I hope it can occur at least here in Europe.

But oh, well, Iā€˜d take the chance to explore some more cinema and watch some movies made in 2019-2020 and I hope I can put up a list of things I’ve seen that feel really nice to check at, but I hope at least I can continue watching more Kiyoshi Kurosawaā€˜s films like Charisma and Akarui Mirai, as also more Otto Preminger’s films.

I watched Terminator Dark Fate on amazon prime last night and it was effin awesome. The end battle is like a team RPG battle. It was amazing.

i watched the Midsommar Directorā€˜s Cut which is almost three hours long. i had liked the original version, but i had thought, at the time, that there was a lot that could have been explored further. i was wrong. the original is disorienting, punchier. it’s a movie that feels like it came from someone's gut feeling. if you think about it too long, or indeed watch it too long, or include scenes where the characters literally verbalize the drama… you realise none of it actually makes much sense, and it falls kinda flat.

Interesting! I had been planning on watching that and was really hopeful there would be a little more mustard on things. Funny to hear its the opposite. Thats a cool movie.

@tombo#10314 is this the version where the bf is a bigger jerk, or is that the theatrical?