The 2021 Insert & Credit Cinéaste Spectacular

Goooood mornin‘, good mooornin’!

In imitation of our [earlier poll](https://forums.insertcredit.com/d/923-poll-concluded-thanks-the-2021-forumsinsertcreditcom-video-game-poll), post your 10 favorite films! Or...

10 _of_ your favorite films.
10 which you believe are the GOAT.
10 which feature a goat!
10 which you remember liking.
Come one! Come all! (**Lurkers and new posters, you too!**)
**This is not a contest of taste,** it is a celebration (albeit a twisted one in which you must kill your darlings)
Only 10!
10 or fewer!

**RULES**

  • - do not rank your list
  • - films only (no TV)†
  • †What is a film?

  • - Does it _feel_ like a film? If yes—it's a film!
  • - serialized television broken across many seasons is NOT a film
  • - serialized television with no season breaks is probably NOT a film
  • - an anthology of disparate shorts... _is_ a film(???) is multiple films??? help
  • - _Twin Peaks: The Return_ is _NOT_ a film
  • - _Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me_ _IS_ a film
  • - _**Is**_ _The End of Evangelion_ a film? (presented as " Episode 25' " and " Episode 26' " with credits in the middle and everything)
  • - _Dekalog_?!
  • - **Does it feel like a film?** (arguments welcome)
  • Please specify the year of release of all submitted films—**try to aim for a wide theatrical release date rather than a festival date**. Please specify also the version of a given film on your list if there are several, e.g. Alien 3 (Assembly Cut), The Grandmaster (Chinese Theatrical Cut), Psycho (1998).

    Film series which are obviously one film split into parts (Matrix Reloaded + Revolutions, Lord of the Rings, The Three & Four Musketeers (1973/1974), etc) may be submitted as one entry.

    Refer to the video game [poll](https://forums.insertcredit.com/d/923-poll-concluded-thanks-the-2021-forumsinsertcreditcom-video-game-poll) for helpful submission advice.

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    **If you should make changes to your list after initial submission, please let me know in a new comment replying to your old one.**
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    Poll ends January 5th 2022 at 8:00AM EASTERN TIME.

    Thank you for playing.

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    Early Summer (1951)

    Blood and Black Lace (1964)

    The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)

    Fascination (1979)

    Querelle (1982)

    Branded to Kill (1967)

    All About Eve (1950)

    The Beyond (1981)

    Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)

    Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster (1964)

    24 Hour Party People (2002)

    Andrei Rublev (1966)

    Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)

    Hoop Dreams (1994)

    Kikujiro (1999)

    Killer Of Sheep (1978)

    Martin (1977)

    Meshes of the Afternoon (1943)

    Out of the Past (1947)

    Red (Kieślowski, not the Bruce Willis one) (1994)

    Sátántangó (1994)

    I unfortunately cannot vote for Shining Force but I can try to teach you French.

    🇫🇷Les Enfants du Paradis (1945)
    🇫🇷Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot (1953)
    🇪🇸Belle de Jour (1967)
    🇫🇷Buffet Froid (1979)
    🇫🇷Le Roi et l'Oiseau (1980)
    🇧🇪C’est arrivé près de chez vous (1992)
    🇫🇷Sur Mes Lèvres (2001)
    🇦🇹Caché (2005)
    🇨🇦Incendies (2011)
    🇫🇷Le Sens de la Fête (2017)

    I had one question re: animated movies, are they eligible? At surface level I‘d say they should be BUT maybe it would be more interesting/fun/they would fit better if we do one of these dedicated to animation in particular down the road? Counting both animated series and movies. Don’t know, just an idea! I will throw one of these in, then remove it if we reach a consensus here.

  • - Memories of Murder (2003, Bong Joon-ho)
  • - Paterson (2016, Jim Jarmusch)
  • - Yojimbo/Sanjuro duology. If I can't do this, then either Seven samurais, Dersu Uzala or RAN.
  • - Hausu (1977, Nobuhiko Obayashi)
  • - Love Exposure (2004, Sion Sono)
  • - Stalker (1979, Andrei Tarkovsky)
  • - Mulholland Drive (2001, David Lynch)
  • - Full Contact (1992, Ringo Lam) as a stand-in for every Hong Kong action movie I like.
  • - 8½ (1963, Federico Fellini)
  • - Patlabor 2 (1993, Mamoru Oshii)
  • Some movies I would like to put in but ran out of space: Cure, Kamikaze Girls, The Thing, Synecdoche New York, Sing Street, Fury Road, Only Yesterday, Suspiria, Kikujiro and Hana-bi, Porco Rosso, Happy Together and Chungking Express, Robocop, Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

    Kind of random what I threw in there vs. what I left out, mostly wanting to make an interesting/heterogeneous list that encompasses well everything I like, but yeah, you could make a lot of changes and I wouldn't be mad. Made sure to add at least one movie of each of my favorite directors as well.

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    @“JoJoestar”#p50102 animated movies

    How do others feel about this? My list would probably be 70% animated stuff if it's allowed, so if not I'll have to reconfigure.

    ofc animated film should be allowed imo

    @“dry cleaner for dogs”#p50109 They‘re certainly Movies and as such should be included, my whole argument is that separating those in a different list could allow to throw more stuff in there/provide extra flexibility, but that’s the extent of it.

    @“JoJoestar”#p50110 If we were to do this I would want to do it now and require two lists of 10 each. I say let's keep it to 10 mixing animation and live-action—after all our games list was not segregated based on platform, engine, online functionality, etc.

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    @“JoJoestar”#p50102 Yojimbo/Sanjuro duology

    We hereby deem your submission [ACCEPTED]

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    @“chazumaru”#p50100 Incendies (2011)

    désolé j'en ai déjà essayé et le slang ou peut-être l'accent canadien c'est vraiment impossible pour moi. tant pis pour mes études

    @“captain”#p50112 What is “live-action” exactly? You mean tokusatsu/super sentai stuff? I would also suggest making the animation list optional, for all those people that either don't watch too much anime/cartoons or may be turned off by the requirement of making two separate lists.

    ANYWAY, as a means to keep mine as weird and interesting as possible I'm going to go with this for regular ass movies:

  • - Memories of Murder (2003, Bong Joon-ho)
  • - Paterson (2016, Jim Jarmusch)
  • - Dersu Uzala (1975, Akira Kurosawa)
  • - ROBOCOP (1987, Paul Verhoeven)
  • - Hausu (1977, Nobuhiko Obayashi)
  • - Love Exposure (2004, Sion Sono)
  • - Stalker (1979, Andrei Tarkovsky)
  • - Mulholland Drive (2001, David Lynch)
  • - Full Contact (1992, Ringo Lam) as a stand-in for every Hong Kong action movie I like.
  • - 8½ (1963, Federico Fellini)
  • And as for animation:

  • - Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (Tim Rogers voice: Yoshiaki Kawajiri owns, dude)
  • - Porco Rosso
  • - Only Yesterday
  • - Patlabor 2
  • - Turn A Gundam
  • - Ping Pong The Animation
  • - Hunter x Hunter
  • - Gunbuster
  • - Haibane Renmei
  • - Neon Genesis Evangelion
  • Feeling hardcore regrets of not including: Diamond is Unbreakable, just about ANYTHING from Satoshi Kon, Clannad, FLCL, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, GIANT ROBO: The Day Earth Stood Still, the original Gundam series and Naoki Urasawa's Monster and some western animation thingies such as Adventure Time, Over the garden wall, Gravity Falls and Steven's Universe.

    And also sorry @captain I totally wanted to get away with Yojimbo/Sanjuro taking only one spot lol, but I will abide by the rules.

    I refuse to obey any law banning documentaries from the list. What, are you afraid that fictional narratives won't be able to stand up to the real world??

    Dog Star Man (1964(?))
    Andrei Rublev (1966)
    Law and Order (1968)
    Hi, Mom! (1970)
    Perceval (1978)
    Dirty Ho (1979)
    Flatliners (1990)
    Point Break (1991)
    The Matrix Reloaded (2003)
    Cave of Forgotten Dreams (2010)

    law and order could be interchanged with any other 20th c. wiseman. If anyone wants to collude to get a Wiseman on the board, I'm down to politic.

    Whisper of the Heart (1995)

    Dersu Uzala (1975)

    Makioka Sisters (1983)

    Watchmaker of St. Paul (1974)

    Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (2000)

    Citizen Kane (1941)

    War & Peace (1966 - 67)

    It's a Wonderful Life (1946)

    Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011)

    Porco Rosso (1992)

    Part of my criteria was movies that I immediately wanted to watch again after they were over. _Porco Rosso_, _Whisper of the Heart_, _Citizen Kane_, _Crouching Tiger_, and _Tinker Tailor_ are all movies that I watched for a second time the very next day, many of the others within a month or two.

    Looking at the lists thus far, looks like _Dersu Uzala_ is shaping up for an easy win...

    Gosh, narrowing it down to ten is hard. I‘ll have an aneurysm if I stress too hard about this, so I’m just going to have fun with it. Chronologically:

    The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928, Carl Th. Dreyer)
    It's A Wonderful Life (1946, Frank Capra)
    Two-Lane Blacktop (1971, Monte Hellman)
    Perfumed Nightmare (1977, Kidlat Tahimik)
    Stalker (1979, Andrei Tarkovsky)
    Possession (1981, Andrzej Żuławski)
    Sans Soleil (1983, Chris Marker)
    RoboCop (1987, Paul Verhoeven)
    Sonatine (1993, Takashi Kitano)
    What Time Is It There? (2001, Tsai Ming-Liang)

    Loving all the lists so far! Reminding me of so many greats I need to watch and rewatch!

    Reading all your posts while going “heck yeah” every time I see a movie I like.

    @“JoJoestar”#p50115 Sorry “live-action” is the term for when real life stuff is filmed with a camera.

    I think this will only work if we're all on the same page numbers-wise. You can defy the rules as it pertains to your list of 10, but I will not accept more than 10 (someone tell me if I'm being a bully).

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    Turn A Gundam

    > Ping Pong

    > Hunter x Hunter

    > Haibane Renmei

    > Evangelion

    This is a good list but these don't _feel_ like films to me! (not sure about Gunbuster, haven't seen it) Maybe I'm being contradictory but I feel it would make sense to separate television from films.

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    @“captain”#p50112 JoJoestar Yojimbo/Sanjuro duology


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    We hereby deem your submission [ACCEPTED]

    You can get away with Yojimbo + Sanjuro! But if you want Dersu Uzala instead speak now or forever hold your peace.

    @“baftaboo”#p50118 If you would compose a books list featuring journalism alongside novels then I see no problem with this, though to anyone wanting to go back and include some docs on your list just remember 10 IS THE LIMIT!!

    On the other hand... can we reasonably slam the door on television as I cruelly did yet keep the door open for documentaries? This is why I didn't want them in the first place, it seems too broad a scope

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    are you afraid

    yes every day

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    The Matrix Reloaded

    So _just_ Reloaded? Not Revolutions? You can do both if you want.

    @“captain”#p50124 my books list would include a work of journalism AND a math textbook

    thanks but nah rev fucking sucks

    I feel pretty basic in my movie tastes! I’ve loved many movies but I’ve never really gone down the rabbit hole into deeper appreciation the way I have with other mediums(though our movie thread is fantastic and makes me want to). Please be kind to my lil ol’ list…

    Kiki’s Delivery Service
    Before Sunset
    Shaun of the Dead
    Pride and Prejudice (2005)
    Black Dynamite
    Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
    Godzilla vs Biollante
    Fast Five
    Macross: Do You Remember Love?
    Singin’ in the Rain

    To address my greatest CinemaSin here: the Marvel movie. Spiderverse is the only comic adaptation I’ve seen, from any medium, that makes my heart swell with the same feeling that reading the best comic books has throughout my life. It is a monumental piece of work in the craft of animation as well. It’s just this impossibly good singular thing (which of course they’re gonna try to wring dry for all it’s worth) that I can say gave me specific feelings I’ve never had from another movie.

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    @“captain”#p50123 These don’t feel like films to me!

    That's because I think we misunderstood each other lol

    My suggestion was more along the lines of making another thread (possibly in the future) for animation in general, including both animated films and series. If we were to make one list only for live-action movies and one only for feature length animated films I'd say then it would make a lot more sense throwing both on the same list. So yeah, let's do that and revert to my original list. You guys can have that anime list for free!

  • - Memories of Murder (2003, Bong Joon-ho)
  • - Paterson (2016, Jim Jarmusch)
  • - Yojimbo/Sanjuro duology. If I can’t do this, then either Seven samurais, Dersu Uzala or RAN.
  • - Hausu (1977, Nobuhiko Obayashi)
  • - Love Exposure (2004, Sion Sono)
  • - Stalker (1979, Andrei Tarkovsky)
  • - Mulholland Drive (2001, David Lynch)
  • - Full Contact (1992, Ringo Lam) as a stand-in for every Hong Kong action movie I like.
  • - 8½ (1963, Federico Fellini)
  • - Patlabor 2 (1993, Mamoru Oshii)
  • As for the Yojimbo/Sanjuro vs Dersu Uzala thing I'm going to embrace chaos and say I leave it to YOU. Just put whatever you feel like when you add all the entries to whatever software you are using.