The time for the entirety of insert credit to play ACE COMBAT has finally come

@captain#29613 Awesome! Hope you enjoy it. Also I feel a bit guilty for not chiming in when you guys were discussing the game's difficulty some time ago (I meant to! but ultimately forgot) but yeah, definitely try to check for new aircrafts after each mission and also pay attention to the secondary weapon you have equipped. And try to take advantage of the changing targets with triangle!

@JoJoestar#29618 No need to feel guilty. I still canā€˜t believe I forgot how to change targets! I unlocked like five new planes before the mission I’m on and just picked the one which seemed the best according to abstract stats, but that's no kind of substitute for actually seeing how each one feels in play.

ace combat is beautiful because it's one of those weird series where they always sell really well but it seems like very few people have played them, but if they HAVE played them they are madly in love with them (and for extremely good reason, imo)

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guys:

I mean, the whole idea of the thread was kinda exactly that…

@JoJoestar I still want to hear more about that Chris Marker reference you dropped in the first post. Because that definitely got my attention.

@rearnakedwindow Some asked earlier in the thread and I already went into detail in a former post.

The comparison with Chris Marker was because I see some resemblance between stuff like Level-5 and what the game is aiming for. I guess you could argue any fake documentary playing with that type of verisimilitude already does the trick and you don't need to namedrop a prestige film maker as Marker, but AC Zero feels a lot darker and more nuanced than your average Cloverfield and Paranormal Activity, even while it definitely keeps some of that pulp factor. Feels closer to La JetƩe than The Blair Witch project, that's for sure.

@JoJoestar Word, yeah that sounds real interesting. Sans soleil is one of my top ten movies ever, probably, but I havenā€˜t seen much of Marker’s other stuff (I think only La Jetee…I have this bad habit where if I like a work by somebody enough, Iā€˜m afraid to see anything else they’ve made for fear of ruining the aura I've put around them. Silly, I know).

Anyway, now I'm amped for both Level Five and Ace Combat 4, so I thank you.

lol okay this was really weird to read just now because I recently bought Ace Combat 4 at Ian's Game Paradise in 5th Avenue Mall and it reminded me to come back and look at this thread more closely. Is that where you got a copy or is there another place around here I could be checking periodically for PS2 games

At some point earlier in the thread I jumped on board with AC7 via xbox game pass. I fell off it pretty quick but not because I didnā€˜t like it, it just wasn’t the right time for me to get deeper into it. Then, before I knew it, it was taken off game pass. Well, thanks to a deep digital discount, it's now loaded onto my PS5, just waiting for me be done with Death Stranding.

@MegaSigil The Goodwills have good picks. I was actually there today and found a first edition (non ā€œgreatest hitsā€) Gran Turismo 3. which i didn't get for some bizarre reason. Value village less so. Even fewer at the Salvation Army / Bishops' attic (my stepdad is very into thrift stores, so as a result, I know them all pretty well)

@hellojed if it was the one in the Goodwill off of 36th Avenue you might have been disappointed

@MegaSigil Oh my god that's the one. Oh fuck. damn. well. I feel better lmao

If I had planned it better we could have had the inaugural Insert Credit Anchorage Meetup

Iā€˜m reviving this thread in a kind of spurious way because I’m not here to talk actually talk about Ace Combat itself. This is a AC adjacent post I guess.

Today I went to watch Top Gun Maverick. Folks around here that I managed to convince giving AC a try surely will have noticed that this franchise has a great debt with the first Top Gun movie, as well as other military themed action dramas like The Hunt for Red October, Air Force One, Armageddon, The Rock, Broken Arrow and a bunch other movies. But of all of those, Top Gun is understandably the biggest influence.

This being the case and as an Ace Combat fan, having the chance to go to the cinema to watch the sequel of such an staple for one of my favorite videogame sagas should ideally have been something that excited me or at least generated some interest on my part. This wasn't the case for me.

There are lots of reasons why I wasn't interested in watching Top Gun Maverick, for example, the fact that the lead role is a prominent figure of one of the most influential sects and the willingness of most people to forget that, or the way the discourse of Cruise being the ultimate last action hero is propagating (in a world where Iko Uwais, Jackie Chan, Michelle Yeoh and Tony Jaa exist lmao what a joke) or the fact that the last Mission Impossible movie in which he was very involved was mostly proto-fascist propaganda. So yeah, I wasn't excited to go see this movie.

I don't know what happened yesterday, maybe I hadn't sleep well (actually this is true) but I decided to get a ticket on a whim since today it was 50% the price. I'm glad I did.

When the movie started and I saw those planes and the awesomely choreographed stunts, the music, the overall vibes I gasped. The fact that the movie opens up with a experimental flight plane very reminiscent of the Mikhail scenes in AC7 made me start feeling things. By the end of the whole thing I was overfilled with joy.

I don't know if this is a good movie. I think it is at least decent? As an adaptation or at least something that mirrors even if its unvoluntarily some of my favorite videogames of all time I was left speechless. This movie felt like seeing Mobius One, Blaze and Trigger coming to life. The fact that the whole concept of the movie is training a squad of pilots to do the iconic suicide mission at the end of each of the games made me grin like a maniac. What a great time I had, I wish watching a dumb movie was always this fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENvE6QZftD8

So this brings me to my conclusion, I'm here to make it official for anyone who cares:

### **_TOP GUN MAVERICK IS ACE COMBAT 8_**

It elicited those feelings, it felt authentic to the games in a way I would have never have expected. And believe me I know this is an unintended accident. These guys have certainly not played this bunch of Japanese niche games to make their stupid movie, but **_I DON'T CARE_**. It feels so much like Ace Combat you could slap the title there and nobody would mind. Also hey, if anything, there is an actual connection between both products:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1966880/ACE_COMBAT_7_SKIES_UNKNOWN__TOP_GUN_Maverick_Aircraft_Set/

So there you go, it“s canon. No one can change my mind.

I downloaded Ace Combat 7 on a big sale a few weeks back. I know nothing about the world of Ace Combat but it looks like it could be a good time!

@JoJoestar this is exactly why I bought 7, having not played AC before! Though interestingly, the release of the movie coincided with the end of it being on a big discount (it’s okay, it came back).

I played AC7 a couple of years ago and loved it. I had previously only played a demo for AC1 (I think) on PS1 yeeeeeears ago. Since then Iā€˜ve been wanting to play more but haven’t got round to buying them. The deluxe version of 7 was on sale for Ā£10 a few weeks ago and that includes the AC5 port so I grabbed that and sent my physical AC7 to a friend to get him into it as well.

I absolutely love the Strange Real. Whilst war is very definitely bad, I do love some of the Japanese takes on war philosophy like MGS and AC. Both of those series have an otherworldly feel to their depiction of war and I have always appreciated that from afar with AC. Another thing I love is big blue skies and sun drenched cities and AC7 sure has those. So I really loved playing through AC7 and I'm looking forward to getting into more of the series.

I enjoyed getting my Clance on with HAWX on the 360 but now having played AC7, that ain't it son. Also, heck Tommy Clancy.

@Chopemon Glad to see that as a fellow PS2 enjoyer you like these games! As I said in the first post 4, Zero and 7 are my absolute favorites, so be sure to check those out. AC2 remake and the first AC PSP are also really solid entries that are usually forgotten.

Strangereal and the whole "military world defined by constant conflict" which happens to be right on the verge of sci-fi but not actually is truly great. I think Metal Gear Solid is one of the greatest points of comparison one can make to describe it, along with stuff like Gundam, Macross and other classic anime like Area 88.

I didn't play Hawx myself but yeah, the clanceboy has nothing on AC and the whole concept of the series.

Just remembered I have 6 on the 360 in a box unplayed as well. I hope Namco put these on the PS+ classics list so more people can easily access them but if they do, they'll probably be tied to the subscription and no thanks.