Ep. 203 - Tomb of the Unknown Gamer, with Mathew Kumar and Liz Ryerson

### Ep. 203 - Tomb of the Unknown Gamer, with Mathew Kumar and Liz Ryerson

Leading game industry professionals and Insert Credit Show regulars [Mathew Kumar](https://twitter.com/mathewkumar) and [Liz Ryerson](https://twitter.com/ellaguro) rejoin the panel for cryptid talk, Nintendo Direct, and pissing on gentrifiers. Original music by Kurt Feldman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocG5Jo9Jaa0

**Questions this week:**

  • 1. [Vincent Diamante](https://twitter.com/vincentdiamante) asks: What’s the best money you’ve spent on a free-to-play game? (04:33)
  • 2. How do you make blocking in a game feel as good as attacking? (10:40)
  • 3. What ideas does Quantic Dream have for Star Wars? (14:37)
  • 4. Which games were most interesting to you prior to their release? (21:04)
  • 5. Improv Zone: Nintendo Direct (25:15)
  • 6. Dirtbag PrivatelyAttack asks: What cryptids show up in an Altus JRPG set in the American midwest? (31:44)
  • 7. Who are the heroes and role models in the video game industry today? (40:01)
  • 8. Make a video game about Passion Orange Guava juice without making it entirely about POGs. (45:58)
  • 9. What is the I Love Lucy of video games? (50:54)
  • 10. Would the world be better off if there weren’t video games? (54:13)
  • **LIGHTNING ROUND**: Name Design: Old Cursewords (from Dirtbag Yeso) (01:00:14)

    **A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED:**

  • - [Ireland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland)
  • - [Scotland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland)
  • - [Sensible World of Soccer](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/sensible-soccer-games)
  • - [Sensible Soccer '98](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sensible-soccer-98)
  • - [Sensible Soccer 2006](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sensible-soccer-2006)
  • - [Sensible Soccer European Champions](https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/championship-soccer-94)
  • - [Prey](https://www.mobygames.com/game/prey_)
  • - [Steel Battalion](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox/steel-battalion)
  • - [PlayOn Kinect Game Boat](https://www.engadget.com/2010-10-11-xbox-kinect-gets-a-new-peripheral-a-blow-up-boat.html)
  • - [World Flipper](https://www.mobygames.com/game/world-flipper)
  • - [Bejeweled 3](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bejeweled-3)
  • - [PS2 Swap Magic](https://www.ps2cover.com/products.php?product=PS2-Swap-Magic-NTSC-USA)
  • - [Asuka 120%](https://www.mobygames.com/game/asuka-120-final-burning-fest)
  • - [Roblox](https://www.mobygames.com/game/rblox)
  • - [Tommy Tallarico settles dispute over 'oof' sound in Roblox](https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/10/tommy-tallarico-settles-copyright-dispute-with-roblox-over-oof-sound/)
  • - [Quantic Dream is making a Star Wars game](https://kotaku.com/what-we-ve-heard-about-a-quantic-dream-star-wars-game-1847708431)
  • - [Detroit Become Human patches out its ending](https://www.polygon.com/2018/6/12/17447380/detroit-become-human-patch-chloe)
  • - [Indigo Prophecy](https://www.mobygames.com/game/indigo-prophecy)
  • - [Kinect Star Wars](https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/kinect-star-wars)
  • - [Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi](https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/star-wars-masters-of-ters-ksi)
  • - [Star Wars: Jedi - Fallen Order](https://www.mobygames.com/game/star-wars-jedi-fallen-order)
  • - [Star Wars: Squadrons](https://www.mobygames.com/game/star-wars-squadrons)
  • - [Cruelty Squad](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/cruelty-squad)
  • - [Yakuza: Like a Dragon](https://www.mobygames.com/game/yakuza-like-a-dragon)
  • - [McGruff's SMART KIDS Album](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y4P4plYXKFE)
  • - [Ogopogo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogopogo)
  • - [Mothman](https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Mothman)
  • - [Loveland Frog](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveland_frog)
  • - [Jersey Devil](https://www.mobygames.com/game/jersey-devil)
  • - [Ghost Adventures](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319900/)
  • - [Jake from State Farm in NBA 2K22](https://kotaku.com/uh-jake-from-state-farm-is-in-nba-2k22-1847658431)
  • - [Hirokazu Yasuhara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirokazu_Yasuhara)
  • - [Michael Brough](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Brough_(game_designer))
  • - [Cinco Paus](https://www.mobygames.com/game/cinco-paus)
  • - [Jake Elliott](http://dai5ychain.net/)
  • - [Pog](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pog_(drink))
  • - [Zuckerberg forcing Hawaiian land sales](https://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/01/18/business/facebooks-zuckerberg-sues-to-force-land-sales/)
  • - [I Love Lucy](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043208/)
  • - [Bayonetta](https://www.mobygames.com/game/bayonetta)
  • - [King's Quest](https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/kings-quest-series)
  • - [Video Dames #0](https://www.acriticalhit.com/video-dames-0-why-the-first-playable-women-of-the-80s-were-naked/)
  • - [Girl's Garden](https://www.mobygames.com/game/sg-1000/girls-garden)
  • - [Phantasy Star](https://www.mobygames.com/game/phantasy-star)
  • - [America's Army](https://www.mobygames.com/game/americas-army-operations)
  • - [Satanic Panic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic)
  • - [Hylics](https://store.steampowered.com/app/397740/Hylics/)
  • **Recommendations:**
    **Brandon:** [Jack Frost (1997)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116671/), [Pig (2021)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11003218/)
    **Liz**: [Cruelty Squad](https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/cruelty-squad), [Salad Fields](https://resnijars.itch.io/salad-fields)
    **Jaffe**: [Batman the Audio Adventures](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15179396/)

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    SMT does have a lot of Native and Mesoamerican cryptids, as well as more dubious pop culture stuff like not-Ghost Rider and so on. The wildest one is probably the chemtrail demon they added a game or two ago.

    If you want a sillier take, Yokai Watch 3 is packed with "Merican" yokai that are mostly, like, food and fat people.

    Yeah, I guess they‘ve got like queztalcoatl and such in there. Didn’t know that about yokai watch 3 though, that is amusing. Interesting how that game absolutely did not take off here, despite their best efforts. The battle system is just dull as bricks.

    When Brandon was describing the weird hands claymation game I thought he was talking about an unreleased game for some reason and my mind immediately went to Dome-King Cabbage, so I was disappointed at the end when he remembered the name of the actual game because I thought I had guessed it.

    Shin Midgami Westsei

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    How do you make blocking in a game feel as good as attacking?

    Sekiro has a pretty satisfying blocking system

    And when Mathew said "nasty French sex pest" just after the 20-minute mark, I had to laugh loudly on the bus this morning. (:

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    @“exodus”#p44245 They completely replaced the battle system for 3, not that a ton of people outside of Japan even noticed by the time it came over. I don‘t even know what they did for 4, and I’m still amazed by how utterly dead the series is now, despite Level-5 having a well-worn track record of running things into the ground.

    The other interesting thing about 3 is that the prior entries had been localised as if they took place in the US, Ace Attorney-style, so for this game which is explicitly about the original MC visiting the US, they changed it to him visiting his cousin who lives in the extremely real southern state of "BBQ".

    aww…do people not say ‘Bloody Norah’ anymore?

    Yeah, yall need to spend more time in backwater AU/NZ (Do Not Do This)

    @“hellomrkearns”#p44258 i say it all the time! another good name-based curse is “gordon bennet”, which probably came from sounding a little bit like “god damn it” (like “cor blimey”/“god blind me”)

    I haven't listened through the episode, so maybe this is resolved, but I had to pause and post that as soon as Brendan started talking about those wibbly hands, I knew the game he meant was Hylics by Mason Lindroth.

    I definitely recommend playing the first one. Mechanically it's a very RPG maker game, but visually and tonally it's completely its own thing, and doesn't overstay its welcome.

    The sequel was a little disappointing to me. I remember it being a little more narratively straightforward, and otherwise was more of the same, and the inclusion of 3D spaces didn't add much to it. So if you just play the first one, you'll get the idea.

    SMT in the midwest…

    The Hodag
    Bozo The Clown
    Resurrection Mary
    Ronnie Woo
    The Billiken
    Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope
    Al Capone
    Svengoolie
    Mike Ditka
    Jim Traficant
    Prince
    Bernie Brewer
    Claudio "The Tamale Guy" Velez

    ### THE FONZ

    inspired by Liz Ryerson's mention of Brutus the Buckeye, I have mocked up a screen for my new game, Pokemon But the Monsters are Big Ten Mascots:

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    Sparty would be Fighting type and Brutus is Grass type. Sequels could be other athletic conferences, I guess.

    Paul Bunyan

    Babe, the blue ox

    Huckleberry Finn

    The Jackson Five (both as individuals and a collective like they do with The Fates or the orders of angels)

    Pete Rose

    The weird SuperDawg sculptures with the glowing red eyes

    I think I can get to 151 at least

    I forgot about 1997 Jack Frost and thought 1998 Jack Frost was secretly a horror movie I had only seen family-friendly commercials for.

    [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/RB1V5mD.png]

    Also nice lightning round "yeso" (@Alistair Cookie), and you'd better include wrestler-form Abraham Lincoln in your SMT spinoff

    (Don't know where or when to make this known but I must tell you all I imagine Mathew Kumar and Patrick Miller looking exactly the same, and they look like Yakuza 0 Nishiki (same hair), but with glasses and a short-sleeve button-down shirt. Patrick wears those trendy (c. 2014) thick-rimmed black rectangular honkers and a black shirt, Mathew wears really narrow half-rim glasses and a mint-green shirt. I hope to never see what they look like so that this fiction may continue.)

    (EDIT For the record I think they both look very handsome, this is not intended as an insult.)

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    @“esper”#p44240 What is the I Love Lucy of video games? (50:54)

    Haven’t listened to this episode yet but one answer had better be Donkey Kong. Foundational work that influenced 40+ years of entertainment. A simple but catchy premise that enchanted different generations of fans. Outdated gender roles. Early positive representation of the successful American integration of an immigrant protagonist. The main female role changed her early stage name and later became a successful powerbroker outside of her acting career. The couple broke up but stayed in good professional terms. And the soundtrack outlived the show.

    @“captain”#p44314 they look real different!

    @"chazumaru"#146 good answer (but I don't think we got there)