While this is disappointing, it’s not a surprise. Tim’s open contempt for the other panellists and the show in general has been increasingly clear in the last few years. Some regular episodes genuinely felt like the pre-recorded ones, where he would think of his answer and deliver it at length without interest or care in what the rest of the panel had to say, when he wasn’t outright mocking it. Shame that he chose to end it in such a rude way as well. If that’s all he had to offer, you are certainly better off without him. Looking forward to a show with zero weed and Seinfeld ‘jokes’. Onwards and upwards <3
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I hope the show doesn’t become shorter without Tim, who kind of monopolized the answers most of the time.
Also, like almost everyone here, I felt that passive aggressiveness and “holier than thou” attitude from him. He would also answer like a bully sometimes.
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I made a post yesterday regarding the Tim feelings, but to answer the scariest gaming moment question. I have a classic fear moment, which was that I truly could not play Siren at ALL due to the facial scans and voice acting. Being in my late 20s, I had encountered Resident Evil and even Silent Hill very young, but for some reason Siren’s uncanny valley amplified everything to a level I couldn’t handle. It still gives me the spooks in a really unique way today.
A really fun additional “moment,” but also more or less the entire game, is the Silent Hill 2 remake. It’s the first time in a while that I felt real dread and General Heavy Emotion from a game. It truly got worse and more difficult throughout, so that was a nice feeling, to be able to be deeply unsettled on multiple levels as an adult.
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I actively avoid horror games or anything that would be “scary” typically…so…
What’s the most you were ever scared by a video game?
Yoshi’s Story, probably. It’s the only game I never beat as a child due to the outright panic I felt facing the final boss. The other times when this happened (the real final boss of Star Fox 64, the Shadow Temple in OoT), I overcame the fear.
Also, you know, the frowning flower face has a real uncanny vibe to it.
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Man I’m just catching up and I hope everyone’s okay, that’s all I have to say
Dont really keep up on the forums and been absorbed in live play D&D podcasts so been missing episodes for a bit, but again I genuinely hope everyone who has been a part of this community, hosts and listeners, is okay and can have a chill existence.
Also to add: I genuinely am averse to jumpscares to a degree that i really dont play a lot of horror games, but my generic answer is that as a kid i was terrified by every aspect of drowning in a Sonic game (music, timer, countdown, sound design… it still gives some anxiety to this day)
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scariest game moment for me is pretty recent: saturnalia. horror games in general have been a bit of a blind spot for me, and it’s only the third horror game i’ve spent significant time with (the others being signalis and omori). i played up to the first encounter with the monster, panic-ran to a dead end, and immediately quit the game. i’ve tried to pick it up again but i’ve never gotten much farther than that first encounter. the combo of the sound design, the heavily stylized visuals, and the fact that my computer doesn’t run the game super well so i felt like i didn’t have a lot of control really messed me up.
second scariest moment is probably beyond good and evil, when i played it as a kid. the whole game incorporates a lot of horror tones in its dungeons - the nutripils factory in particular freaked me out a lot, the ruined industrial gloom haunted by a terrible monster guarding it - but honestly, the part that messed me up the most was when i explored out into the ocean to get a picture of a whale, and then it breached the water right next to me. it was so much bigger than any other animal i’d seen in the game, and the fact that i couldn’t see it when it was underwater made its appearance feel like a jump scare.
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I’m sorry y’all are going through that and hope it works out for everyone involved. FWIW, I was recently reflecting on how I missed the Brandon-Frank era of the show and I’m excited to hear what you have cooking up!
Two real-life video game jump-scare moments for me:
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Playing AM2R (incredible fan PC version of Metroid 2) in the dark, alone in my apartment, low health, low on missiles. I hadn’t saved in a long while but, like a fool, I felt compelled to explore down “just one more hallway” instead of back-tracking to save and quit. Of course, the next bit of screen revealed a Zeta Metroid, the likes of which had been kicking my ass repeatedly up to that point, and I nearly fell out of my chair in fright. Somehow, out of sheer adrenaline I gamed better than I had ever gamed before, managed to survive the encounter, and promptly ran back to the save point humbled by my own stupidity.
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Dungeon Encounters, accidentally running at 4x speed into an “FB” encounter on like floor 30-something. It’s like missing the bottom step of a staircase… except you fall into a black hole.
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Mod Statement
The mod team is aware this thread is being used to process feelings about the show’s changes, but please ask yourself if you’re throwing people under a bus before you post.
Saying “I never liked Tim and here is why” is not the point of this thread or the announcement and it’s not contributing to the discussion. We’re likely to take more aggressive moderation actions from this point forward.
Thanks everyone.
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You’re right, we should save that topic for the next episode!
/jk I generally like Tim and the things he makes, for the record, just saying his heart didn’t seem to be in it as of late. I will shut up now.
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Just noting that I agree with/support this mod statement! I understand people want to voice their feelings but we don’t want to turn into a pile on. I know folks are being positive about the future of the show, I just don’t want the thread to turn into pure venting (and especially not verge into personal attacks). I know it’s a tough line to tread here, but let’s try to keep it as chill as possible.
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@antillese To be fair though, a lot of the guy’s contempt over the years was aimed directly at the audience, so it’s only reasonable for that audience to have feelings (and things to say) about it once it’s all seemingly over.
If more people, myself included, had spoken up about it at the time maybe things would have ended differently. I started at least a few private messages and emails to the show over the last few years and decided against sending them. I concluded that those involved with the show were fine with Tim’s behaviour and that I was misinterpreting the changes to his post-YouTube schtick. I ultimately decided that the correct solution as an audience member was to stop listening if I didn’t like what I was hearing. Which I did do a couple of times.
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I haven’t posted on the IC forums before. I just wanted to say I appreciate Frank and Brandon for stressing authenticity at the start of the show. It’s what made me a fan of this podcast and pretty much the only one I ever listen to with regularity. If I could have one small request, I would like if Alex contributed more in future episodes. I know as Host that’s not really his role… but the people (people being me) demand more Jaffe! Thank you.
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Im very curious what the expected response was to accusations of abuse and toxicity on a widely distributed and public facing platform. Its difficult for me to square away Frank calling out Tim on this and then expecting to clean his hands of it and have nobody talk about. That kind of inflammatory language always leads to dogpiles and its a big deal to make accusations like that.
It makes me very uncomfortable to hear this language being used and then immediately say “oh but respect our privacy” then come on here, see the obvious reactions and also see brandon liking those comments. Calling Tim abusive is opening a dialogue, not closing one.
You all made this a public issue and now I think its very disingenuous to try and close the book on it. The accusations of abuse need to either be further clarified and commented on or rescinded.
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In fairness, I don’t think it was ever on anybody outside the four of us podcast members to change the outcome of this. No amount of external mention or pressure (we did see messages and notes) was going to alter the path for people who have known each other this long and who have such strong personalities.
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do you see any dog piles anywhere
Brandon probably makes those wings records but Tim will make Plastic Ono band
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Yes. A mod had to make a post about it.
frank the mystic beatle confirmed?
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This implies the existence of Alex Jaffe and his all jaff band
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Most I’ve ever been scared by a video game: I played the demo of Resident Evil VII VR once. I don’t get scared by much, but the feeling of “being there” in that situation in VR, amid all that unsettling scenery got to me. I also relate to Brandon’s RE2 anecdote I swear I had the same exact situation happen when I was a kid.
I have no desire to watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre. My aunt babysit me as a kid, along with my cousins of various ages. One day after she took us to swimming lessons she let my older cousin rent Poltergeist and Texas Chainsaw Massacre at the video rental store. The kids played Poltergeist first, it immediately creeped me out so I hid out in my cousin’s bedroom playing Super C the whole time. Eventually my fear of what was on the living room TV was subsumed by my boredom and I ventured back out into the living room while Texas Chainsaw Massacre was on. I saw someone get hung up on a meat hook and immediately abesimpson.gif’d the heck out of there.
No clue what the heck my aunt was thinking.
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