@“mtvcribs”#p145584 Hmm, as tough as it can be to not do 12 hour days when it‘s on offer, if you can pass up one of the lucrative jobs for one of the more casual ones (the long hauls tended to be more popular around here anyway) maybe you can get some time to actually talk to a therapist or even some sort of mentor? I was only in the trades for about 9 months but my dad and I talked about it a lot as he stayed in for 15 years or so. So I don’t 100% know what you‘re going through but kinda! It does take a toll on your body and mental health and you sort of stop existing as a human, so you gotta prioritize that at some point. I think the number of guys I met on a site who said "don’t wind up like me" was all of them! And that mostly had to do with 1) taking on too much work at the expense of your body 2) partying too hard in their scant free minutes (lol)
@“exodus”#p145587 I‘m not really offered jobs, I just am kind of assigned them.
Also, never really know when a easy job will turn into a difficult one.
I’ve been trying to figure out how to make time to see my therapist again, if she‘s even taking clients atm. Might just have to make myself be okay with virtual appointments.
Some people seem to think this is a humble brag, but I have a pretty a high sense of responsibility and it sucks. I don’t think I should care as much as I do about work. I think work being the biggest part of your identity kinda sucks. Unless you truly love your job, I guess, which I don't!
All this to say, I think I know what I need to do. I just need to do it.
Which is to say, talk to my boss and maybe be a little less nice about it, and say “no” more.
good/bad news, got caught at work slacking off in the closed fitting room for most of the shift
ive been doing this a bit too often
had to go to the managers office and get talked to, yknow, as you do
i got given a corrective (a write-up, i think)
im not fired yet, manager has to talk to the boss of the store first
but signs point to termination looking likely
its my own fault but at the same time, im tired of retail
i feel no guilt whatsoever
new year, new job
on the bright side, this has been the longest i‘ve kept a job, so that’s neat
probably gonna start doing some job searching in the near future
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@“Emily”#p146408 i got given a corrective (a write-up, i think)
> im not fired yet, manager has to talk to the boss of the store first
> but signs point to termination looking likely
Do you have an employee handbook or policy handbook? Is the discipline process outlined anywhere?
Normally, getting written up once implies that you're not getting terminated just yet. I mean, that's the point of a corrective write-up, right? It's to give you a chance to correct the behaviour.
I mean, the job sounds like it fuckin sucks but if they fire you immediately after your first write up just for slackin' off, that would likely be against their own disciplinary policy, and might be worth a complaint to the labour board. Maybe you'd get some wrongful termination dough with minimal effort?
@“Emily”#p146408 rookie mistake. The real move is to take 2-3 30-40 “bathroom breaks” and just sit in the stall on your phone.
i worked customer service for the first time today
had to learn a lot on the fly, had a little help
it went ok
@“MovingCastles”#p146421
i have done this, it rules
@“BippityJones”#p129043
Oh why did I say this, the FDA went and audited us for over a month.
As someone who's young and has never kept a job for more than 6 months (due to various reasons like school and health). Are remote entry level jobs even real?
@“穴”#p147111 I don't know much about this but there are definitely remote call center jobs. Sounds pretty rough but at least the category exists.
@“穴”#p147111 When you say entry level jobs, do you mean going in without any experience and training on the job or starting off with a background of some sorts and progressing upwards?
Speaking from experience the challenge is training someone remotely without any experience in a field. As both being the trainer and trainee in the past, I've seen both sides and I know learning can be tough (granted in the last five years we've come a long way) remotely due to interacting with your trainer or coach.
I'm not as aware of the US job market right now as I used to be, but I know how US companies recruit and if you find the right people leader who will give you a chance (they do exist) they can make it work for you.
On a side note, have you had much experience in remote job interviews? And have you worked remotely before?
If you have any questions and if I can help please let me know.
Corporate hat off now as officially I'm on holiday from work =)
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@“exodus”#p147113 I don’t know much about this but there are definitely remote call center jobs. Sounds pretty rough but at least the category exists.
I'm familiar with call centers because northern mexico is full of them (higher porcentage of English speakers I guess) and there's even jokes about how they fund every art scene cause a ton of young people go into them and they pay better than even jobs that require a degree. The work from home positions in them are extremely sought after over here and I've heard nothing but horror stories.
On a side note I used to receive free Nintendo switch codes a couple of years ago from a childhood acquaintance I didn't even speak to (my brother did) who worked at a nintendo quality customer thing that was basically answering to people calling about joycon drift lol
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@“Tom of the Fog”#p147115 When you say entry level jobs, do you mean going in without any experience and training on the job or starting off with a background of some sorts and progressing upwards?
I guess? I have a background in many things but just not professionally if that makes sense? All my previous jobs have been retail so I guess I'd have to do a couple of formal things in the stuff I have a background on to add to a resume or something
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@“Tom of the Fog”#p147115 I’m not as aware of the US job market right now as I used to be, but I know how US companies recruit and if you find the right people leader who will give you a chance (they do exist) they can make it work for you.
I'm actually in Mexico so I'm in a peculiar situation where I know there are remote jobs that hire internally and that a lot of remote opportunities happen at a national level. The ones that don't care about your nationality from what I have noticed are mostly the heavily specialized ones cause they are offering people like me a chance to make like ten times more than the average in the region.
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@“Tom of the Fog”#p147115 On a side note, have you had much experience in remote job interviews? And have you worked remotely before?
I haven't had a single remote interview cause I haven't applied to many remote jobs so no experience on that
@“穴”#p147123 Call Center jobs suck and I probably have some PTSD with regards to being forced to be polite to screaming jerks.
That being said - they're a pretty solid gateway to regular old office jobs eventually which usually are WGH. I've had plenty of call centre jobs over the years while studying because they're easy to get and usually pay well enough.
Personally I'd aim for gigs in larger organizations such as banks (how I got my current job) or the public service (I've known people to get office gigs that usually have WFH this way).
Edit: just FYI in my Australia so might be different in the US.
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@“穴”#p147123 All my previous jobs have been retail so I guess I’d have to do a couple of formal things in the stuff I have a background on to add to a resume or something
Honestly that's your sales pitch right there! I worked retail for years before I worked in a call centre (doing IT support) and worked my way from there. I got in because I had years of customer service experience which is what people look for. Taking the face to face experience and applying it to the phone or chat helps a lot.
Didn't realise you were in Mexico, my apologies. I know a lot of call centres open and operate there because of the multilingual staff available. Clearly you have that covered so I'd use that as a pitch too.
When I have some time I can look over your resume and give some pointers - worth noting having a few different ones depending on the industry you're looking to go into helps as well. As far as having a 100% remote position that's not an easy role to fall into unless you can offer something either truly unique to people or find the right company.
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@“MovingCastles”#p147130 That being said - they’re a pretty solid gateway to regular old office jobs eventually
This is very true. Remote working is still a perk and not really a standard. Sometimes you have to pay your dues to get it.
I do work remotely almost exclusively now and I do miss the commute, the people and the general being in an office. It's nice but I'm sure people who do would agree that you do miss some of office life, not all the time but sometimes.
@“穴”#580 - entry level remote jobs in tech are absolutely real. call centers are not so common from what i’ve seen but a support role where you help people over chat/email is still viable, and like @“MovingCastles”#1552 said, it’s a great stepping stone into another position at the company, and you can then take that title to another job. i think the trick is to first find a company that fits your background so you can ace the interview/get the recruiters attention. for example, i’ve had friends that have parlayed an interest in fashion to a boring job at a clothing company start-up etc. on that note, i would go against @“MovingCastles”#1552 and also advise joining a smaller company/start-up over a larger company if you have the choice, just because you can get promoted much faster and even get opportunities that don’t come at larger companies. this is how some people get to be things like product managers without ever having gone to school for such a thing. but this is from my experience in the US tech market, and i don’t know what your ultimate goals are.
i should also say that i’ve noticed a lot for software companies in the US have been hiring software engineers specifically from Mexico over the last six months. if you can wait 3-6 months and get some coding certifications, you could absolutely get a remote job. i know the “learn to code” shit is kind of a meme at this point, but i’ve seen so many people change careers into software engineering and be successful at it. the recruiter people i talk to say AWS and Google Cloud will be the “next big things” in the hiring market, and both offer a free certification and learning course. again, i know the “learn to code” stuff sounds goofy, but i sometimes wish that’s what i had done!
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@“MoH”#p147142 think the trick is to first find a company that fits your background so you can ace the interview/get the recruiters attention. for example, i’ve had friends that have parlayed an interest in fashion to a boring job at a clothing company start-up etc. on that note, i would go against @MovingCastles and also advise joining a smaller company/start-up over a larger company if you have the choice, just because you can get promoted much faster and even get opportunities that don’t come at larger companies
I agree - I would also suggest a smaller company might be better place to start your career if you want to grow with one company for a few years. With startups you end up doing a bit of everything and so when you're ready for the next job, you can emphasize what you want to whatever path you go down. At my startup I touched everything from HR, Operations, Management, Marketing, etc on a kinda small scale but I was able to turn it into a business analyst job which wasn't even exactly what I was doing, but an aspect to the job I liked and I have some doors open if I want to change it up.
A lot of bigger companies will talk a big game to entry level employees about developing their talent, but it can be hard to distinguish yourself and luck based. With remote positions I think it's probably harder. A lot of remote effort goes unrecognized if you aren't working with a team that advocates for you. Working with a temp agency or consulting or outsourcing company isn't a bad way to get work quickly but go into it knowing it's not quite a straightforward career path, especially not with the company you're doing the work for day to day. In general though, hopping from one job to another is a good thing if you want to make more money and take on more interesting types of work.
Definitely talk up your past work experiences even if it's not directly associated with the job you're applying for! Even if indirectly, you have experience managing customer relationships, taking initiative to solve problems, being a leader on your team, attentive to details... etc. If you can relate those kinds of experiences from your retail job to the job you're applying for, that's the kind of thing entry level job interviews look. For entry level I don't think they're expecting that much prior experience in that industry.
You got this!
guess who just got fired today?
thats right, its me
it was a pretty chill termination, everyone was adults
i said my goodbyes, however brief
turned my locker lock in, signed a thing
first time getting fired and its the longest ive held a job, working at that kohls
im getting myself a consolation breakfast at ihop right now
and ill hop on job searching soon enough
new year, new job
@“Emily”#p147411 Consolation breakfast at IHOP sounds pretty nice tbh… good luck on the new job search!
applied to a best buy, here's hoping
@“Emily”#p147426 every best buy I‘ve been in the past few years at any given moment has like 13 employees on the floor while there’s 3-5 customers, the odds are in your favor.