and it is very popular and maintains many fighting game staples while simplifying and commodifying them for the average consumer. And you can play as Terry in it
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I have a lot of these, but Iāll test the water with a particularly bold one:
The Lucasarts adventure games on balance resulted in a net-negative for video game culture.
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Terry is the new Shovel Knight that guy will show up anywhere.
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I think the only game still bearing this torch is Smash Bros, by way of encouraging as much nonsense happening as possible. You can still gain an advantage by skill, but items and hazards and general chaos are the great equalizers. The last true Goofin Around Fighting Game.
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say more!
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I think that UFO 50 represents a sort of nadir of the way a lot of folks who are online engage with gamesāespecially retro gamesānowadays and that having an ODE or Mister with every game ever made on it only encourages playing the first seven minutes
Playing a game like you paid for it and donāt have literally every other game as an option to distract you from it would enhance peopleās engagement with the hobby in a way healthier way
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Thatās what Tekken Bowl is for.
Street Fighter 6? Youāre talking about street fighter 6, right? It couldnāt be Fighting EX Layers.
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handheld gaming is superior to pc/console/switch gaming. I will take a million Vita and DS games before a PS4 game. also the switch and steamdeck are not real handheld portable devices.
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Iāve always felt like Dead or Alive was a pretty solid āhang outā fighting game.
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I agree with all this (and conclude that basically just not playing online is the way to go), but I also want to say that I was being very literal with the party analogy. I do mean putting a setup in the corner of a room as people are milling about otherwise at like a Halloween party or some such. This is probably an unusual way to present a fighting game, but I think thereās potential there!
Shame that playing them online is basically only for hardcore folks though.
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Close! It also has Ryu and Ken in it!
on a real note Towerfall is also this perfect party fighting game. I wish that game maintained popularity. Probably the best multiplayer game. periodā¦
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Every fighting game can be this if you have the right people around. Itās the people playing the game who decide HOW the game is going to be played. If you have people around who are going to be competitive and try to be the best, then they are going to do that and you might not have fun with them.
I canāt tell you how many times Iāve played fighting games with my couple of friends who enjoy them and weāve done some of the stupidest things because we are there to have fun. MvC2? Iām going triple Dan and itās going to be bonkers. Maybe Iāll do Servbot, Zangeif, and Sakura. Who knows?
We also would boot up Third Strike and goof around nothing serious. One New Yearās Eve we did 75 matches of Third Strike and a large percentage of those were Hugo vs. Hugo because of how crazy it was.
Multiplayer game experiences can be shaped so wildly depending on the group involved. If your group is a way that isnāt making the games fun, then maybe find a different group who will make them fun. (This isnāt saying ABANDON one group, but maybe donāt do certain games with certain groups.)
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I think itās a combo of things-- part of it is definitely newer games targeting incredibly serious hardcore fans, but itās also Iām pretty certain the perceived and observed hardcore nature of fighting games pushing people with less dedication to the cause out of the community. I used to play in person against other very casual players, and then I played briefly online with a handful of friends, but very quickly I ran into friends who reassured me that they were completely casual players, only to eat my lunch over the course of a dozen shutout matches. I donāt think I was ever a terrible player exactly, it just stopped being fun to play matches where I had literally zero chance of winning (Iām also not friends with these folks anymore).
A bunch of years back a friend of mine tried to make some online resources to help new players get acclimated to fighting games, and I think he had some success by making extremely basic explainers and such. And I think itās great that games have such robust tutorials these days, but they kinda have to, because between the hand eye coordination fighting games require, the terminology around them is honestly pretty alienating, and that not taking into account games with extremely specific terminology (Iām thinking of Guilty Gear, with guard, instant block, faultless defence, and blitz shieldā¦ I had to look these up for the example, and justā¦ Guilty Gear, wtf?) which you donāt exactly have to know the difference between to play, but that I promise every single person you play against online will know.
I think the writing was on the wall for this years ago though when specific characters started to get perceived as dominant, and matches got boring because they ended up being nothing but that character versus that character, over and over and over.
Anyway, I didnāt plan on getting fired up about this, just to make my point! Itās not a complaint, itās my opinion, so please nobody try and convince me how accessible you think fighting games are today! Its okay! Iāve got plenty of other stuff to play!
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Man I could really use some elaboration here as this sounds extremely interesting.
I think you may be forgetting how busted up the car gets in Daytona. Weāre probably in this whole mess because of it!
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Dang! My enthusiasm for arcade racing clouded my memory. Replace Daytona with Crusinā USA.
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I think the sorts of games I enjoy most uncritically are competitive multiplayer games and games that are obtuse or difficult to play, especially arcade games. I donāt identify as a hardcore gamer or anything lmao, I just think games you have to learn to play (including board games, sokoban, strategy games, roguelikes) are really cool.
I love adventure games and RPGs and survival-horror too, but there I need some convincing. Time-to-emotional-investment is much lower with something I can pick up and just fuck around in, like a super technical fighting game. I love figuring out what buttons do, which moves combo into whatever, with zero expectations. Itās like learning to ride a bike in an empty parking lot.
Itās just that good. #ad #sponsored
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Mods, please merge this thread to my original Unpopular Opinions Thread, because it ended up having a funny name
(mods+everyone else I am kidding but I do think the name of that thread is very funny)
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I suppose this isnāt what most are thinking when making the claim, but it reminds me that I miss the original Nintendo DS d-pad. I like that it has aā¦ āshort actionā (?) and importantly that it is large enough for my adult thumb. The DSiās d-pad feels responsive but is a little small. If the screen hinge on my original DS hadnāt broken (while it was sitting cushioned in a bag!) I would still use it sometimes.
Before I embarked on the FFXIII replay I had wanted to play Lightning Returns for a few years, so it will be funny if by the end of the original LR ends up being more of a disappointment following my new appreciation for the original. Time travel(?), all the previous characters returning in name but with different personalities and playing different roles, dress spheresā¦ seems pretty cool.
FFXIII-2 never really appealed to me, although I donāt know how to explain why as I only played a demo once back when it came out. Replacing Lightning with that Jason Marsdenāvoiced guy was something of a wet blanket on things, and the monster taming aspect was plainly less appealing than the paradigms of the previous game.
I see this problem as cultural more than anything, although maybe someone really inspired can make a game that will reintroduce one-on-one fighting in a way that is somehow both not intimidating to casual players and which also doesnāt immediately become swallowed up/dominated by the FGC. If itās possible for both audiences to enjoy Smash Bros. I have to think it would be possible for another game. Maybe it already exists! We recently tried to get some more casual matches going here and Iām not sure if we started a new thread for it, but I canāt find it if we did.
We need you in this thread.
I invite everyone to elaborate. ;)
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I think it says a lot about the state of the forum that we didnāt need rules this time and it hasnāt devolved into a massive flame war.
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